Can color profiles be convolved?

If you have a monitor profile and a printer profile, it should be possible to convolve them somehow. Then you could select that profile as your default in the OS, LR would convert to that profile and you'd essentially be soft-proofing.
Is this possible? If so, is there a tool available for doing so?

"Is this possible? If so, is there a tool available for doing so?"
Yeah...it's called Photoshop.....under View>Proof Setup>Custom
Yes, Lightroom needs soft proofing...no, there's no way to hack around the lack of it without going the Photoshop route.

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Can't get white color to stay white between color profiles

Hello,
I installed Photoshop CS4 and am using a Samsung flat panel monitor. I do web design and print design. Here is the problem:
Web design:
Color profile is set to Monitor Color
Proof color is set to Monito RGB
Proof Colors is checked
When I save image through Save For Web, it looks fine in the preview box but in some browsers it has blue tint (even the white color now looks blue)
I tried embedding the monitor coor profile into the exported JPEG and tried converting to sRGB and it always is a problem
Print design:
When I make a new CMYK document 300dpi the white now has a yellow tint.
I tried to paint the entire image white (and the foreground color is clearly white) then go with the eyedropper it says its fff6db (yellowish)
Proof Color: working CMYK
CMYK Color: US Web Coated (SWOP) v2
Color Managment Policies are all off
What I want is an explanation of how I can make sure that the colors are correct on my screen such that what I see on the monitor is exactly what everyone will see on their browsers. And that there are no color shifts. I had version 6 at work and its fine, when I converted from RGB to CMYK the colors just got a little washed out but the whites remained white.
-Max

Web design - you're ignoring the display profile, twice. What you see on your system is exactly what you'll see in the browsers. But nobody else will ever see it exactly the same way because you refer everything to your specific display.
Print design - you're actually using the display profile, and that profile is wrong. You're seeing a yellow tint because your monitor profile claims that the white is bluer than it really is, and Photoshop is correcting for that. To get rid of the tint, you need a display profile that correctly describes your display.

Why can't I include a color profile when exporting to PDF?

I've a basic RGB illustrator file - no embedded or linked images, just flat colors and gradients.
I'm working in sRGB space and this is reported correctly in the info field at the lower left of the editing window.
Some issues:
1. When I look at this file in Bridge it's listed as 'untagged'. However if I re-open it in illustrator it's reported to be sRGB as expected.
What's broken here?
...and of more immediate concern:
2. Despite requesting 'Include All Profiles' on the output page of the PDF save dialog I cannot get a PDF exported that includes the sRGB profile.
Same issues in both CS6 and CC - Windows 7, 64.
Thoughts, comments or suggestions welcomed....
Thanks

Your .pdf is fine, if you open the .pdf in illustrator, adn hten do edit >> assign profile, this radio biutton will bo on what the profile. Also in the bottom left of illustrator you can see what color profile your document is saved with, btuy turning that on.
Hold down option adn you will get other fun easter egg options
Bridge only seems to show profiles for certain bitmapped formats, except .psb format.

How Can I add a color profile to OS X 10.8.4?

How Can I add a color profile to OS X 10.8.4?
I've tried to locate the color profile folder but it's not availble.

Hello gipseyeyes,
It sounds like you're trying to add a ColorSync Profile to your Mac. I found a few resources that may help.
First, I recommend reviewing the following article:
Mac OS X: How to Create a ColorSync Profile Used By Every Account
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22329
The note in step 6 from that article is particularly useful for your situation:
Note: You may need to make some of these folders if they do not exist.
Also, the user Library in Mountain Lion is hidden, so you will need to follow these steps to get to "~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/":
OS X Mountain Lion: What is the Library folder?
The Library folder contains files used by OS X and your apps, including your personal fonts and preferences. The Library folder is hidden. If you need to open it, make sure you are in the Finder, hold down the Option key, and then choose Go > Library.
You can find the full article here:
OS X Mountain Lion: What is the Library folder?
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11395
Thank you for using Apple Support Communities.
Best,
Sheila M.

How can I check the color profile for the current document?

I'd like to create a script that checks the current document's color profile and checks it against a string, for example "sRGB IEC61966-2.1". My studio has a script that performs various functions to make sure that all the layers are visible/unlocked, checks for stray points, etc., and we'd like to add a check to the color profile because we handle a large number of files and this setting is overlooked a lot.
It's alright if this value isn't writable through script (we can just pop up an alert letting the user know that they need to change it), but I can't find where to actually read this setting! We're currently working on Macs and with JavaScript, but any nudge in the right direction would be great.
Thanks!

The Annoyance Factor. The idea was to add the color profile check once an illustrator is finished with a particular file as a kind of "clean up" before they save and move on to something else. My options as of right now are:
Create a script that saves the file in Illustrator and then closes the document, opens Photoshop if it wasn't open already (wait to load), opens the file in Photoshop (wait to load), change the color profile, and save (wait for the extra save).
Create a script that pops up an alert that says, "Check that your color profile is set to sRGB IEC61966-2.1". And the illustrator will check, save the file, and move on.
We have close to 30 people working on several files every day so wasting all that time waiting for files to load and save in a different application adds up in man-hours pretty quick. In this particular case, getting our people to do it is more efficient.

I can't calibrate any color profile for my iMac's display!

I think I accidentally deleted the color profile for my iMac's display
and now it won't let me calibrate any profile! All the colors are bright and washed out.
When I go to the display>color preference panel I get an error sound whenever I click ANY color profile, and it doesn't load. When I click "calibrate" it gives me the message: "Can not calibrate the display. The factory profile for the display could not be found."
But I wasn't even using the factory profile, and it won't let me choose any other ones, either (though a whole list does show up!)
I tried repairing/verifying the profiles in the ColorSync Utility, but it didn't help.
Is there somewhere I can download the profile and install it? I'm running a white 20" Core Duo 2GHz iMac (summer of 2006), if that helps.
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seenew,
I'm wondering if you would have any luck with resetting the PRAM? PRAM settings hold some of the display preferences I believe.
See: "Mac OS X: What's stored in PRAM"
If not, I am wondering if reapplying the Combo update for 10.4.7 might correct the display calibration issue or at least return it to the default?
I don't think that recreating the .plist file for displays will help.
As far as I know you cannot "download" the profile.
sorry if those suggestions don't help,
littleshoulders

Can't delete custom color profile

I created a custom color profile and now it won't let me delete it, the delete option is grayed out. I have looked in the colorsync profile folder and it isn't there either. Does anyone know how to delete it?
Message was edited by: Chad3405

Chad,
Open your Color Sync Utility, and find the profile in question. Once highlighted, it will show the path for that profile under "Profile Information:". Follow that path, and you can delete it from there, though it will probably ask for an administrator password. That should be it.
Hope this helps,
Jeff

Why can't I find the color profile info in the library ?

Why can’t I find the color profile info in the library ?
It’s sometimes necessary to convert to sRGB for some applications ( internet, some beamers in clubs,…).
I convert them but afterwards it is nice to have the possibility to check this out and should be possible in lightroom, the info is present why not showing it ( it is not so easy to go in finder and look at it in info for every image)?
Since I’m always working in Adobe profile for printing and so this is important to know !
But no trace of it anywhere….
Thx for any reply.

The disconnect here is many (including me) don't reimport rendered JPEGs
into our Lightroom Catalogs. Why you are doing that is beyond me. You
have the original and can recreate any rendered file at any time.
Storing the derivative JPEGs is redundant, creates additional confusion
and serves little real purpose. Exported versions are considered
discarable by many.
Yes, understand what you're meaning. but the fact is that I started rather recently with lightroom. So my images where classified in directory's and subdirectory's...already.
I think that this is the major problem. This is always a problem when you step in a new system.
Let's say I am going to submit to a photographic society, I have an Export
preset created that exports to proper size and color space for
projection. It creates a file. I send it to the club. Then I delete it.
Why save it? I can recreate it. Then I don't have to manage it, search
for it, or worse yet, risk confusion with my original file or othe
resultant derivatives.
The fact that I like to keep them is
indeed an inborn result of the "pré-lightroom period". A bad habitude
indeed. I'm thinking now of deleting them, will maybe better. On the other side
I still have them just for me in order to know which ones I used and when.
Another bad habitude.
But
since I'm not a professional photographer I'm mostly confronted with the time
issue and it is for me easier to take existing files ready for use...
( doesn't mean you’re not confronted
with this problem
Today place for jpeg's is rather easy since the Gb's are almost free...
Same is true of a client photo. They want an 8x10. I go to the retouched
original, create a JPEG from an 8x10 preset in the proper dimensions and color space. Send it to the lab. Then, I can delete it.
One of the strengths of Lightroom is that it creates many fewer
intermediate file versions along the way toward final creation. Another
strength is that you can save (via snapshots in Develop) your
derivatives, export, and discard them without having to create, import
and manage additional files on disk. In the old days of just Photoshop
you might end up with a dozen or more files on your disk for every
worked file. With Lightroom, you only need one or two.
Will look deeper in your proposed workflow...and yes I'm comming from the old days.
That said, if you want to keep the derivatives for purposes down the road,
that is up to you but I don't understand why they need to be inserted
into your catalog.
Since my catalog is made in the time
from before lightroom I’m still having all these directory's and
subdirectory's...
Easier
for me since even with back-ups of the catalogue still afraid for crashes. And
I keep liking these directory structure because for the moment it's lighrtroom
and tomorrow it can be another program, you never know. It's like a website, "on line versoin only", big problem when a firm at some moment stop to provide this possibility.
I think I will try to go deeper in "how to use lightroom better..."
thanks
Edward De Bruyn

Hot to create color profile if I can't disable color management?

I have Canon PIXMA iP4600 printer. I wanted to create custom color profile for Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy paper, but I can't disable color management in the Print dialog. There are two options: SolorSync (and I have to pick some color profile I'd like to use), or Canon Color Matching. There is no way to disable color management.
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I just thought maybe there are some "fake" printer profiles out there? Profiles which don't translate anything and what goes in, comes out 1:1? This way I could work-around this problem.
My problem is that in printouts I need little bit more more saturated greens and 4-7% less red component.

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If these default values are not delivering the color output you want, then I suggest you set the Color Matching menu to Canon Color Matching and then use the Color Options menu to tweak the Magenta and Cyan values to boost the greens and reduce the reds.
Note that you should also set your application to let the printer manage the color.
Pahu

Can I share color profiles and distiller settings with all user accounts on my imac?

Everyone in our studio is on OSX 10.8.3 with adobe cs6 (not creativecliud version).
I have installed color settings and distiller settings on to the macs under the employees user profile.
All the machines also have a general user profile which anyone can use (setup mainly for use by freelancers).
Is there a space on the macs where i can install the color profiles and distiller settings so that all user accounts have them set up?
At the moment i am having to go into each user account on each machine and do it manually.
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library/applicationsupport/adobe/adobepdf/settings
and
user/library/applicationsupport/adobe/color/
user/library/applicationsupport/adobe/adobepdf/settings
any help would be much appreciated.
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I've tried various methods with no success.
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Color profile changes after I login but I can't find the original profile

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My Color setting is set to Millions which I believe is the default setting.
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I have a specific color profile that I want to load int PS CS5 color settings. I've placed it into my user library/application support/adobe/color/settings folder and all was good. Now i'm in PS and can't find the user library to load the settings. (Interestingly enough, I have no problem getting into the system library. Go figure) Any ideas?
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