Can dual socket Mac Pro 3,1 (2008) use two X5470?

1. Can dual socket Mac Pro 3,1 (2008) use two X5470?
2. And can dual socket Mac Pro 4,1 (2009) use two X5675?

All I can tell you is that the 2009 Nehalem might be somewhat upgradeable, but the Mac Pro 3,1 I believe, has an X53XX socket. The 2009 might have used either Westmere, Harpertown or Cloverdale/gainestown(???) processors. See this URL for more info.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2800/upgrading-and-analyzing-apple-s-nehalem-mac-p ro
also, see this
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/turnkey/MacPro/2010_Xeon_Processor.
Please note that this applies only to the 4,1 (2009) Mac Pro, not the 2008 one. My advice to you, sir, is to find an independent mac Tech who would better be able to tell you if that's possible. If I were a betting man, I'd say "no" to question 1, and "probably not, but I might be wrong" to question 2
JB

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