Can I have an oppinion on the K7N2 Delta-ILSR

I'm looking for my next board and after reading this article dated:August 2003,in Maximum PC mag, I wanted to know more. I have always been a Pentium guy so I don't know anyting about AMD and it's compatibilities...what is a fast processer for this board..?
How would it compare to the Pentium in Gigahertz?
Is this mother board even worth the trouble..?
So many questions, so little time.  

I have and love hate my MSI K7N2 Delta when its working its a great board but it can tax you at times.
I've learned a lot in building this one.  I have been building computers for years started with the K6 III 450 and a FIC motherboard.
I never had any problems with any of them just put togather load and use.
The only other time I had any real problems with any of my computers was when ME came out I jumped right away what a mistake that was it was mouths before all the drivers where fixed and even than some never got fixed and had to quit using some of my hardware like a sound Card etc.
The Nvidia chipset that is the heart of the K7N2 Delta is very picky about what ram you use even some that look like there working can give you headaces.
Also they take very good power supplies the cheap 300 to 400 wat power supplies just won't hack it. Get a good one. Antec, Enermax etc.

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  • Samsung Memory and the K7N2 Delta-ILSR

    Grargness, McGrarg!
    I am having problems with memory for this (otherwise good) motherboard.
    The first shtuff that I put in was WinBond DDR400 - 2 identical 256Mb sticks. This seemed to work, but often, when I start the machine, it beeps at me and the bracket shows that POST has failed the memory check. Secondly, sometimes, the amount of RAM displayed by the BIOS and Windows 2000 sometimes showed single channel 256Mb! I soldiered on for a time - it only happened once in 2 to 3 reboots or fresh starts (but can be consistently happening on a bad day).
    OK, I thought, I will try my supplier for other memory sticks - I tried a few other brands and then was told thst Samsung would be good for this board. Well, I got the real shtuff and put it in (2x256Mb DDR400) - first time it starts, the machine exhibits the SAME issue! Ahh! Then, it restarts again and I get further - it boots halfway into Win2k, but then blue-screened. Next reboot and the machine gets fully into Win2k, but then reboots of its own accord! Next time it reboots and I am here, right now and it seems OK. Hmmm. How long do I have before the machine reboots of its own accord again?
    What am I doing wrong? My setup is an XP 2000+, running with the 133 FSB. All defaults, pretty well, I suppose...
    Thanks,
    Leni

    Well, I have taken your advise. Problem is, the memory sometimes fails POST - I have the four-eyed bracket to tell me that.
    I have tried clocking it down to 133 to match the processor, but I sometimes get it telling me that I only have 256Mb memory? This is crazy! There seems to be no logic why at one time, the memory works, but another time, the memory does not work. I have swapped "up" from WinBond memory and now it is worse - at least with the WinBond, the memory worked at 200DDR, not just 133DDR.
    Do I need to change the timings? The CAS is set (and it is steady, but without one stick registering) to be 2.5. The SPD indicates that it should be 3.0.
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  • Do I have a K7N2 Delta-ILSR????

    Its my understanding that the K7N2 Delta-ILSR has the MCP2-T chip, but the chip I have where the MCP2-T should be has a label on it that says "MSI 400 FSB". So is this mobo a K7N2 Delta-ILSR or not? The only thing that I find printed on it is K7N2 and MS-6570 Ver 1.
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    MM

    Quote from: osnavi on 21-September-05, 12:08:48
    Then ? What about the MAX AMPS. asked ?
    Yes you did ask for the AMP ratings. I spent 29 years trouble shooting high-end solid state equipment where incorrect voltages wreak havoc on IC chips so I assumed that is what you really wanted to know.
    A power supply is going to handle the required current or its not.  If it can't handle it, shuts down. (Isn't there a question on the A+ certification test that address this? Jack adds a hard and the PC won't power up. Why? Answer: C. The power supply is too small.)  So why is Max AMP so important in trouble shooting my problem? I also think that Dr. Stu's Statement "if there is not enough current on the 12v rail, then the CPU cannot start" is incorrect. Basic ohms law: you need VOLTAGE and a LOAD (CPU) first to have current.
    The max AMP rating for my PU is as follows +3.3v=35amp, +5v =28amp, and +12v= 22amp. The supply is out of an Avaya sever cabinet with no brand name on it. As I posted in an early post, "The power supply tests good". This is an assumption that I made because I just built a Pentium 3.4Gig a few days before I took on this project. But just to be sure I got out my oscilloscope with a current probe and a load box (light bulbs and a potentiometer) and tested each supply lead. The amp's far exceeded the ratings before the PU shut down each time.
    So now back to my question from an early post: My POST card is telling me that the BIOS is stuck in "Reset" Does the BIOS get the reset from the CPU or does it come from the external short?

  • MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Bios v.7.6 ??When??

    Hello,
    I just asked myself when MSI is going to publish a new Bios Update above the 7.6 for the K7N2 Delta ILSR mainboard !!! I think it's time for a new Bios update, because of the few problems with this mainboard !!!!

    Quote
    He has confirmed the ports are present on the board....
    I have seen this in earlier Nf2 Pre Delta boards where it was there but if you had disabled it, and then flashed the BIOS, it would dissapear. The only way to get it back was to flash to an earlier version, make sure it is enabled, then you can flash to the latest.
    That is why I always clear the CMOS when starting a new build. You may have a board that may have been fiddled with, believe it or not, it does happen from time to time.
    Have you tried the Default BIOS Settings Option in the BIOS? Perhaps you loaded the Performance option and that is why it is hiding?
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  • K7N2 Delta-ILSR BSOD

    Hi
    MSI Nforce K7N2 Delta-ILSR
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    Antec True380SPGB True Power 380w
    AMD Athlon XP2800+
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    Abit Siluro GF4 Ti4200
    I've installed 1 SATA onto the onboard Raid controller, but I keep getting BSOD when either playing a game or watching avi's.  The 0x00000000 message is disappearing too quickly to right down but is saying windows was shut down to prevent damage to the hardware.
    Will the K7N2 Delta-ILSR Promise controller work with just one SATA hdd connected, I know that the silicon image controller on my Asus A7N8X-E will support just one SATA connected but will the promise chipset.
    I've updated all the drivers but the dreaded BSOD keeps happening.
    If it won't it not's a major problem as I do have a PCI sata controller card I can install.
    Or are there any issues with the above graphics card and the MSI mobo?
    Thanks for any help.

    Yep I've created a array with the single SATA and got Windows installed.
    I've also changed the memory settings so they are now 1:1 with the FSB.
    I've also altered the advance settings so I'll be able to write down the full 0X00000000 string.
    Just set net access up via my PC and got this error report from M$
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    Error Caused by Graphics Device Driver
    Thank you for submitting an error report. Microsoft is unable to determine what specifically caused the problem you reported. To troubleshoot the problem, please see the information listed below.
    Analysis
    A device driver installed on your computer caused the problem, but we cannot determine the precise cause. Depending on which situation is applicable to you, please do one of the following:
        * If you are running Windows Server 2003 you may experience crashes if you have adjusted the Hardware Acceleration setting. Microsoft recommends that you set the Hardware Acceleration setting to None for server systems. To check your Hardware Acceleration setting, go to the Advanced section of the display properties dialog box.
        * If you know the manufacturer of the device, contact the manufacturer's product support service for assistance.
        * If you don't know the driver's manufacturer and need help diagnosing and resolving this problem, contact your computer manufacturer's product support service.
        * Updated drivers might be available on the Microsoft Windows Update website. At Windows Update, you can have your computer scanned and, if there are updated drivers available, Windows Update will offer a selection of drivers that you might be able to use. To learn more about updated drivers that might be available, visit Microsoft Windows Update.
        * For information about Microsoft support options, visit Microsoft Product Support Services.
    I've downloaded the current graphics card drivers from Abit and I'll install them and see what happens.
    I've also adjusted the AGP in the bios from 64mb to 128mb.

  • K7N2 DELTA-ILSR AND DDR-RAM

    I got K7N2 Delta-ILSR, the last bios version, and
    2x256 twinmos pc3200 ram. The 50% of the times the computer startes without problems, but the other 50% it gets hang up when I start the computer and the "d-Leds" indicate:" the memory module is damaged or not installed properly".
    I know that the ram-modules works, but not with this Motherboard.
    I need to get new ram-modules.
    Somebody have the K7N2 DELTA-ILSR, with ddr-ram that works ??? (not K7N2G- IL and ILSR)
     [size=15]You can list this here, it will help a lot of people! [/SIZE]

    If you'll look at the start of the forum you'll see an article "good memory choices" start there.If you don't want to spend the bucks buying new mem read this http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/index.php?threadid=20221&boardid=14

  • S-Bracket on K7N2 Delta-ILSR

    Dear forum,
    I have just tried to attache the S-bracket on the K7N2 Delta-ILSR motherboard, but to me it seems that there is not enough distance between the buttom of the metal part of the backet and the buttom of the plastic part to fit it into a case. The plastic part comes to rest on the motherboard itself and thereby causes the bracket to be liftted 3-5 mm above the top end of the slot in the case, making it impossible to attach the bracket properly.
    See the following link for the specs of the card and a picture of the S-bracket.
    Specs
    It can not be the case design as the PCI cards would have the same problem.
    Is there different designs of the S-bracket and I got the wrong one or is there a way to get this bracket mounted without damaging the motherboard ?
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    Lars Barasinski

    just chop it as we have all had to do ,the lower plastic with a sharp knife

  • 2 Queries on K7N2 Delta-ILSR

    Hi,
    1) I just bought a pair of K7N2 Delta-ILSR mobo's for two new pc's.  Each box has in it an item that isn't mentioned in the book, on the box, or at the website. It's for a rear slot, and it has two ports on it. One looks like an RCA jack, the other is five hole round (looks similar to a mouse port). There's a black cable with a rectangular five hole connector on the end.
    Anyone know ehat it is?
    2) I feel stupid even asking this.  There's an nforce2 chip on the board, which I'm told is equivalent to a geforce 3 card. Where does a monitor get plugged in to?
    Thanks!!!!
    Paul

    I believe its a TV out that was included by mistake, there is an answer in a FAQ I read tonight on the MSI site. There is no GeForce on the K7N2 Delta-ILSR, you need the "G" version for that.
    As I just got my Delta tonight I will ask a couple of questions here Im unsure about instead of making a new thread up.
    First Im using my XP2400 266mhz  until I can afford a new CPU but Im using some 333mhz Ram, will this be ok and whats the best settings will I have to run the ram at 266 or can I run it at 333mhz? BTW I have used the 333 in my 420 ok with the xp2400 but with this Delta accepting a higher memory type Im unsure how it will pick it up in any settings.
    Also I notice an extra 4pin CPU ATX power connecter, do I have to use this as well as the normal ATX connector?
    Finally, is the covered Bluetooth port just a bog standard USB connecter?
    thanks for any answers
    waveydavey
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  • NEED HELP - K7N2 Delta ILSR

    I really need help. I recently bought my new moboard the K7N2 Delta ILSR and with it a GeForce FX 5600 256DDR, 512 DDD Ram PC3200, an 80Gb Seagate SATA HD, andi have a 2800+ AMD Athlon Xp Barton Core Cpu. The problem i get is that when i try to install Windows XP it says it cant find any hard drives. I saw the other thread that was like this but that one had about RAID so i thought i would ask again. I even tried it with Windows 98 which finds my hard drive and even installed once but after that i tried to upgrade to Windows Xp which didnt work, overwrited some of my Windows 98 files and so that didnt work either and when i try to install it again it gives me errors. PLS help im desperate to get my lan workin with my other PC. I havent changed any options in the bios and i dont know if i have to change anything to make sata work. I dont have a floppy disk either for the hd. I found it in the array thigy as well.  

    Windows will not find a SATA drive you have to tell it you have one bios will only find IDE drives.
    you must hit ctrl F when the screen comes up during boot and creat an array just follow the on screen promps.
    If you bought a OEM board and don't have the SATA Promise disk download it from MSI and a Manual too.
    Either a Raid 0 or Raid 1.
    It looks like you have only one drive so just tell it that and the array will work.
    Than go to your Bois and set Bois to boot from CD first SCSI secound.
    Now you can load your OS. When your OS starts to load it will flash a line across bottom of screen asking if you have SCSI hit F6 do so. The OS will keep loading but when its done it will ask for you 3.5 promise disk. Put it in and load the Fast Track 376 program.
    When you OS is finished loading it will again ask for this disk as the first time it just loads the drivers to memory the secound time to your HDD.
    Good Luck it a little confussing the first time as the programers think there talking to techs not people so use terms that sometimes don't make sense.

  • Help! amd xp3000+ barton temp's.... k7n2 delta ilsr

    Hi all, (sorry for the lengthy post)
    Ive recently built a new system based on the K7N2 DELTA ILSR, great mobo, however my cpu temps are extremely high! on idle 48C and on load nearly 60C. the mobo temp hits approx 40c on load and 34 on idle.
    I had an issue with cooling as the cpu heat diode would freeze my pc as it was hitting temps of 58c on idle. i was using the coolermaster aero 7+.... no good at all!!!!! even when on full rpm. Now im using a vantec 80mm fan on a Thermalright SLK-800A. much improved, however still extremely hot.
    after reading this review (section headed: Heat Dissipation: Thermal Conditions and S2K Bus Disconnect) :
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlonxp-3000.html
    ......on "S2k bus disconnect" created by AMD for the barton range.
    As the article states, it reduces Cpu temps ALOT!! but im not too sure ion how to activate it or even if my MSI motherboard supports it....
    Can anyone shed some light???
    system:
    Radeon 9800
    1GB 3200 Ram
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    Thanks, Sav

    Sorry about the long reply!!! the first thing i would like to say is why does this happen at 58C even with the bios temp settings diabled??? pehapes MSI could Answer this?
    I have spent countless hours trying to fix this problem and a lot of £££. A bit of background to me I am a design engineer and i like my PC to work well. I have the following main components
    xp3200+ based system (Max die 85C)
    with dual 512ddr sticks running at 400mhz
    Matrox Parphilia
    10K SATA hard disk
    7,200 133ATA hard drive
    Plus motherboard Nvidia chipset
    these all kick out a lot of heat the (CPU contributing 76.8w).
    first i started out with a very cheap case and standard amd heatsink. I found after about 5 minutes my pc kept crashing i automatically thought that it was probably the case temperature so monitored this found every time cpu reached 58C it crashed on the dot. The only conclusion i can draw from this that this MB has some thermal protection that can not be switched off but i am guessing perhapes MSI would like to answer this.
    I quickly decided as an engineer that the best thing would be to go and buy a aluminuim case with lots of case fans (Basically a big heatsink itself). After a lot of searching i settled for a Coolermaster ATC110. It has four case fans all run at full speed all the time. Now this stoped the crashing problem it only now crashes if i put it under continous loading. Then i went out and bought a new cpu heatsink to replace the amd standard one. This had a minor effect on cpu temp but again under high loads the system crashed at 58C. Obvoiusly as an engineer i satred to think that the amount of noise the system with all its fans going at max is like being put in a wind tunnel.
    I then turned to looking at the thermal diserpation requiremnts of all the bits in my system. I worked out that i need to disserpate 281Wmax of heat with my current setup. The kind of heat a small electric fire produces!!!. I begun to wounder if i could shift enough air through the two exhaust fans at the rooms ambient temp to do this. After some calculations I found that my case exhaust case fans are only just surfficent to disspate this amount. Which could explain this the crashing. because the higher the case temp the lower the capability of the heatsinks to conduct heat away from the item.
    In the end i gave up with active cooling methods (heatsinks and fans) and realised my only option was to go for external cooling. I now have the system setup with a koolance exos cooling both hardisks graphics card cpu and MBchipset. I know this is very extreme but the case fan noise got to me now i have disconected all case fans except for the ones in my thermaltake power supply which are virtually silent. After about 12 evenings of testing and installation I now have a system which is not only stable but the CPU temp is only 32C.
    Obvoiusly getting the heat out of the case is a good idea. The Exos is only running at it's lowest setting which means the  fans arnt making any noticable noise.
    MOST IMPORTANTLY IT DOES NOT CRASH ANY MORE. AND THERE IS THE PSSIBILTY OF OVERCLOCKING.
    The question still remains though why 58C?

  • HyperX with K7N2 Delta ILSR

    I start a new thread because the topic could be interesting to other posters too.
    From the MSI website we can see that Kingston DDR is recommended by MSI
    but a lot of users here use other brands such as Corsair, Mushkin etc.
    WHY?
    and
    WHY MSI does not recommend Corsair and Mushkin?
    I believe both are reasonable questions.
    And now lets move to the critical question.
    Does the Kigston HyperX (PC3200) 400MHz (KHX3200)-CL2 will work smoothly with the
    K7N2 Delta ILSR?
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    Thanks

    msi_ole,
    I have 4 computers here in my home office with various configs in them...way too numerous to list in a signature...my main system that I use for gaming is what is in my signature...I have the K7N2G-ILSR (non Delta) board in my testbed system...I have an MSI Ti-4600 Video card in another one of them...so I DO use MSI parts but I really like the combo of what I show in my signature much more than any other combination that I put together with all of this hardware...The system below is the fastest combo I found and it's that way even with no OCing so why wouldn't I go with it?
    Also having this ASUS board let me know that not only MSI has issues with their nF2 chipset build because I've had to jump thru many hoops for various things with the ASUS board too...most of their problems are with the dual onboard network cards and memory issues which isn't really different than any of the other mfg's out there...I like to tinker with as much of this stuff as I can to see if it's one mfg or all of them and imho and from my tests it's NOT just MSI having this problem it's all of them...
    What I said about Kingston has been their norm for years now...I used to own a computer store and they ALWAYS back out when they have issues...it's their way cause it's easier on them than having to actually fix something it seems...I don't like them and probly never will because of my experiences with them in the past...this is just my opinion and take it for what it's worth...
    ALSO, if you had read my sticky post at the top of the forum you'd see that I recommend that you DO NOT follow MSI's recommended memory list as it could have been that they got a batch of modules that actually did work in the 1 or 2 boards that they tested them in...batches of memory differ highly in specs and those lists mean nothing to me when I buy memory anymore...gets me in the ballpark and nothing else...so take them with a grain of salt because NOTHING in electronics is absolute...parametric differences of electronic parts can leave you scratching your head for days when you just KNOW that something should work...it's the way it is...
    My background in electronics is quite extensive starting with my DeVRY degree thru Guidance & Control Systems for Jets and Missiles to Memory Testers & VLSI testers used to test Intel/AMD CPU's and the memory we use in these beasts that we love to play with so much...
    I've seen so much crap happen over the years I'm here hoping that I can help everyone and learn some stuff myself on the way...
    Cheers!! 8)

  • Best Cooler For XP 3000+ on K7N2-Delta ILSR?

    As the title suggests I am looking for a good, high performance Heatsink and Fan for my current XP 3000+ system. I have a K7N2 Delta ILSR mobo. Three Heatsinks I have been looking at are:
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    I am looking for a high-performance heatsink at an affordable price (max £50) with which I can do some overclocking. Currently I have one of the Zalman ones ( I think it is a CNPS6000-CU) which is insufficient (load temps 66 C).  Help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    Yeah, i'm looking for a good price vs performance vs noise solution really. Both the Volcano and the Vantec Tornado are really loud, but they seem to perform quite well.

  • Questions about K7N2 Delta-ILSR

     I am planning to buy a K7N2 Delta-ILSR  motherboard, so I have a few questions  about it.
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     Secondly, which are the available multiplier numbers?
     Furthermore, i would like to know if the K7N2 Delta-ILSR version has standard the MCP2-T chip. In advance I would like to know, if it supports the SoundstormTM technology
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    madsteeve1,
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    Its not tehre, but it does use Hynix chips, which IS supported.  I also have read in this forum that people have got my exact memory to work flawlessly on the board i want.  Thanks anyway!

  • K7N2 Delta-ILSR - USB to Serial Adapter Doesn't Work!

    Is anyone aware of an error such as the follows with the K7N2 Delta-ILSR?
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    Don't think it will this time, but on occassions booting into SafeMode and removing possibly half-installed copies of USB devices from Device Manager has helped.
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