Can I Install Tiger with an exterinal USB DVD Drive??

Hi,
I've accuired a couple iMacs that are currently running Mac OS 9, but are fast enough to run Tiger. The problem is they only have built in CD drives. Rather than going out to find several internal iMac DVD drives, could I buy one exterinal USB DVD drive to install Tiger?
Thanks!

What happens if the firmware isn't updated?
The display may stop working, even for OS 9. It is not easy to fix.
I just installed 10.2 on one of them and it seems to be working. Should I uninstall it and upgrade the firmware and start over?
Check the "Boot ROM version" with System profiler. If the firmware is updated it will be 4.1.9
It is not necessary to remove OSX to install the updates if OS 9 is still on the hard drive. If not, and the OS 9 drivers are there, OS 9 can be installed without affecting OSX.
The update won't install if it is not needed.

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Hi,
Read all posts regarding the install of WIN7. Still none actually worked for me.
1. Details: MacMini late 2009, OS X Mavericks, unusable Apple SuperDrive, external Asus DVD on USB. Stick with drivers for WIN7, created by downloading them from Apple website as BootCamp refuses to create it. WIN7 DVD.
2. Steps I did:
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3. It worked on OS X 10.8. I installled WIN7 from that external DVD by using BootCamp without any trouble. Worked like charm.
4. Why I need WIN7. To run FrameMaker10 and CorelDraw X6. I need them in my work.
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Mac OS X will only boot PowerPCs with Firewire, not with USB. That's the reason it doesn't work.

Can I install Leopard from an external USB DVD drive?

I am trying to install Leopard onto an older PB G4 whose internal drive is shot. I have an external Pioneer USB 2 drive attached, but when the Leopard Installer prompts me to restart, the installer doesn't kick in and the computer restarts into basic OSX. I've tried to choose the Installer DVD via System Preferences "Start-up Disk" pane, but it doesn't show up. The DVD drive does have its own AC power source.
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Mac OS X will only boot PowerPCs with Firewire, not with USB. That's the reason it doesn't work.

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Can I connect firewire adapter or cable to a usb dvd drive to install tiger cs when I tried installing with just the usb dvd drive didn't work so can I connect a firewire cable or adapter

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To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

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Some Macs while they have Firewire, don't support Target Disk Mode, nor Firewire booting. These Macs if they came with no DVD drive, and only a CD drive or CD-RW drive (as opposed to combo or superdrive), can only install Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) if you:
1. Install a compatible internal DVD drive from which supports http://www.patchburn.de/ or other firmware that supports Mac OS X booting.
2. Find the original retail CD version of Mac OS X 10.4 that was available for a limited time called the Media Exchange Program CD.
These Macs include the Blue and White G3 desktop (non-iMac), and the PCI PowerMac G4 described below:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
The iMac G3 with built-in Firewire, iBook G3 with built-in Firewire, and AGP PowerMac G4 with built-in Firewire at least support Firewire booting and Target Disk Mode which would allow them to use an external optical DVD drive that supports Mac OS X booting.
If they didn't have an internal DVD drive.
Port #4 in this image below is a Firewire port:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.
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What happens if the firmware isn't updated?
The display may stop working, even for OS 9. It is not easy to fix.
I just installed 10.2 on one of them and it seems to be working. Should I uninstall it and upgrade the firmware and start over?
Check the "Boot ROM version" with System profiler. If the firmware is updated it will be 4.1.9
It is not necessary to remove OSX to install the updates if OS 9 is still on the hard drive. If not, and the OS 9 drivers are there, OS 9 can be installed without affecting OSX.
The update won't install if it is not needed.

Re: To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

I'd like to ammend this at the end and say:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.

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I have a system that should support Tiger and I have a retail Install Disk(black face w/ big X). After inserting the disk, clicking "install", giving appropriate password, then clicking "restart", I can't get past the grey window with Apple Logo. Trying to start using "C" key doesn't work nor does selecting the Install Disk after using Option Key during Start-Up. What's the matter with my machine or software? It's a Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver) running OS X 10.2.8. It's a 933 Mhz PowerPC and has 768 mb of RAM. Boot Rom info is 4.3.3f2, Darwin Kernel Ves. 6.8. Do I need a firmware update and ,if so, how can I get it?

Is there a minimum Mac OS for the 107D ? OSX 10.4 should be OK but I do remember OSX 10.4.6 being a minimum requirement for a lot of the Pioneer drives when I looked to upgrade years ago. This was enough to put me off upgrading.
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[This link|http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg25218.html] indicates it boots OS9 so I would think it would also boot OSX. Aren't many early generation G4 Superdrives basically Pioneer drives under a different label?
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****, I just tried it and when I restarted it didn't go into the installer. I think my disc drive in my old mac mini might be too slow. It takes forever to recognize the disc and just to double click on it and it up. And when I tried to install it the first time from the internal drive it just booted right into my desktop again.

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> I even tried e-mailing Toshiba...
Maybe stupid question now but have you tried to contact Microsoft too? If BIOS is OK and if all USB ports are working properly I dont think it is Toshiba related issue. Toshiba offers notebook with original recovery image (WIN7 64BIT HOME PREMIUM) and possibility to create bootable USB with recovery image that can be used anytime you want.
What you do now is your own OS installation. What Toshiba must do is to offer all important drivers, tools and utilities on drivers download page.
What else you can try? Try to obtain external USB ODD and try to install WIN7 using Microsoft installation disc. Im pretty sure this will work.

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My previous install of Snow Leopard was acting up and ended up biting the dust. I am currently on deployment overseas and don't have regular or fast access to the internet so buying Lion from the App Store was out of the question. I recently recieved the 10.7 USB in the mail and was excited to begin the installation process... but then I got the "Recovery System can't be created." error. Which from what I've been reading is commonly associated with Boot Camp.
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Because my G4 must be rack-mounted, I have removed it's superdrive to an external FW enclosure. Though it is the original drive, I am unable to startup from it with my full retail Tiger OS 10.4.22 disk.
The disk mounts just fine; running the installer shows a restart button but after the restart, boots from the 10.3.9 system on the HD, with the DVD mounted on the desktop. If I manually designate the Tiger OS on DVD in startup disk, on restart, it reverts to the 10.3.9 system on the HD as well.
I have tried C, X, option keys, These methods don't even show the DVD volume as an option.
What now?
G4 DP 1.42GHz Mac OS X (10.3.9) 2G RAM

Thank you,
Though I have not yet solved the problem, you steered me in the right direction. My enclosure is no longer supported by Yamaha, the original manufacturer, so obviously it is suspect. I am currently waiting for a reply from OWC to see if their most up-to-date enclosures are Tiger boot-compatible before plunking down the cash. I have not been able to locate any database with this information online.
Patchburn reported my drive as ready to go, so I guess the boot issue is not addressed by it specifically.

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