Can I Modify Film Rolls???

I'm viewing my iPhoto Library sorted by Film Roll. I've found a ton of single shot rolls. What I'd like to do is combine these rolls together, but clicking and dragging is not working. Is there a reason why rolls can't be modified?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Gryphen:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Just Command+click on the icons for the roll's you want to move and drag them on top of the icon for the destination rolls. That will move all the photos into that destination roll and delete the rolls selected and moved.

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Can't view film rolls

Recently all of my film rolls "went away." When I open iPhoto, and have selected my library, all I get is one large photo. When I double click on that photo, it actually reduces and then shows a row of thumbnails at the top. I have tried View>Film Rolls, sorting by film rolls, rebuilding my library.... No success. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks!! Oh - and it was working fine before but this just happened a day or two ago.

Hi jazzyjasi,
Take a look at the slider on the bottom right hand corner of the iPhoto window.
Move the slider bar to the left to make the photo thumbnail smaller and to show all the other thumbnails.
I think that is your problem.

Can you modify the roll-up schedule for child servers into the parent?

We have one parent server (which server some clients directly) and two child servers. There appears to be a large delay (maybe 2 hours) between when a server reports into a child server and when that update reaches the parent server. We would
like to be able to query the master server on patch night and get an up to date accounting of patch status without having to wait for the roll-up. Is there any way to change the roll up interval or to force a roll-up on demand (say right before generating
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set to patch and reboot, so they start installing at 8:00 and after they finish and reboot they always report in to their reporting server within a few minutes after startup.
This scenario is almost certainly doomed on principle from the start. Consider the following sequence of events that must occur between the time you approve the updates on the USS and the client system wants to install the update (at 8:00pm).
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The DSS WSUS Server(s) synchronize with the USS. The first sync event following the completion of any given update download will trigger the download of that file to the DSS as well. (How often your DSS syncs will drive this delay.)
The DSS completes the download from the USS. (Like #1, this could run from minutes to hours, depending on the number of updates and available bandwidth.)
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The client system completes the download from the DSS. (And these downloads must be completed BEFORE 8pm in order for the WUA to actually schedule the updates to be installed.)
As such, the practicalities of getting from approval (even assuming mid-morning for that event) to fully downloaded by 8pm (so a total time span of ~10 hours end-to-end) is flirting with failure.
For best results to make your 8:00pm installation time, you really need to approve the updates at least 24 hours in advance, and to ensure they get to the replica servers, probably closer to 48 hours in advance, all depending on what the actual
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Why even have film rolls?

Does anyone else think that they are a bad idea? I don't see any advantage to them. They just seem to make more work and over complicate things... very un-apple-ish.
You HAVE to import all the pictures on your camera into one roll. Then, you have to make separate rolls.
Or if you want to put some of your new pictures in an old roll, you have to click and drag, which doesn't seem to work well at all. If you have a large library and you want to get to an early roll it scrolls impossibly fast, and you can never get to the roll you want. Also, it doesn't always scroll (at least for me).
Then you'll probably want to make albums out of your pictures, which is a whole separate step.
Why not just do it like (dare I say it?) the Windows wizard? Select the photos you want to import, give them a name and a folder (or album) to store them in, and be done with it. If you want to have the same photo in different folder/album, just copy and paste.
Is it just me, or does that seem to make a lot more sense?
15" MacBook Pro 2.33GHz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hi.
Sure, Windows Wizard makes much more sense and is easier to use. Perhaps what you want is a file browser. There are many available. They let you simply store the photos on your hard drive, in your folders, how you want them. Easy.
With the film rolls, you only have to organize them once. Then place your new imports in the roll of your choice once, and be done with it.
You HAVE to import all the pictures on your camera into one roll. Then, you have to make separate rolls.
Not exactly. There are a few workflow options, and you may find one that works better for you. If you camera mounts as a drive on your desktop, you can bypass the iPhoto Import screen. Do File> Import to Library and you can navigate your camera's files, select only the ones you want, and import. If your camera doesn't mount on the desktop, use a card reader. Each import creates a separate film roll, so you could import in whatever arrangement you like. After the import, you can rename your roll to something descriptive that will help you locate your pictures later.
Or, use Image Capture (in your Applications folder) to upload the photos from your camera. [Image Capture's preferences determine which app opens when you connect your camera, so you can reset it if you like.] You can upload all, or choose some. Upload to a folder on your desktop, then use Finder to group into folders (for your rolls) and even rename the files if you like. Once uploaded, you can drag those folders (no subfolders, though) into the iPhoto window and they will be imported into separate rolls with those folder names. Or drag into the Source Pane, and albums will also be created with the folder names. Once copied into your iPhoto Library you can delete the original folders and files.
Then you'll probably want to make albums out of your pictures, which is a whole separate step.
That last part takes care of this.
Perhaps you are taking the term "film roll" too literally and creating extra work for yourself. With actual film, you may have had only 12 or 24 photos on one roll. With digital cameras, you might keep all photos from a 1GB card together on one roll. You can use the film roll comments to list the contents of the roll. Comments are visible when the rolls are closed in Film Roll view. I keep all my rolls closed to maximize iPhoto's launch speed. I only open the rolls I need to access.
Scrolling problems - YES, this seems to be a common experience. There are some ways to minimize them and work around them. Keeping rolls closed helps with this. More rolls fit on the screen, so it's more likely the roll you want is visible with the roll you are moving. If the target roll is still off-screen and you just can't get it selected, there is another technique. Select the photos you want to move and Command-click to select the roll you want them moved to (be sure this roll is open). Do File > Create New Roll and the photos will be combined. You'll have to redo the title, if you had renamed your roll before.
Why go through this, as opposed to the Wizard simplicity? Because iPhoto offers much more complex features than any file browser. iPhoto is not a file browser. It is a database application with non-destructive editing. You import a photo. iPhoto creates a thumbnail version, linked to your original, for efficient presentation of your library on screen. You edit, and it creates a full-sized copy, which you then modify. It keeps track of the edited version, linked to your original. Your thumbnail is also located and updated to match the edited version. If you ever wish to go back, you can always Revert to Original. The edited version will be deleted, and your thumbnail will again reflect the change. All before you can blink your eyes.
Then consider the Albums and Folders in your Source Pane. With a file browser, you'd have to duplicate your files to display them in more than one album (because album = folder). Copy and paste and be done with it, sure. But how many copies do you need on your hard drive? And how do you keep track of which ones have multiple copies and which ones don't? Things can get messy pretty fast, not to mention how much hard drive space is wasted on duplicates. With iPhoto's database, albums never create duplication; they are virtual arrangements which have no presence in your folder structure. The benefit - you can have a photo in 100 albums, with very little increase to the size of your library. Albums are an extra step, if you choose to use them. If this is inconvenient, you don't have to use them at all. But if you like the ability to create multiple groupings of the photos in your library, the ability is there.
Play with other search features, and iPhoto becomes very powerful indeed. Smart Albums can be created to compile photos based on many criteria, and they stay current with your library. With the calendar tool you can pull up photos from any year, month, and/or date with just a few clicks. Keywords can be used to include or eliminate (Option-click a keyword) groups of photos until you have just the grouping you want. [Ex: I can find all photos of my daughter, with my in laws, at a festival, NOT at Christmas, with animals....]
No one ever said iPhoto was intuitive. But if you like its features, learning the iPhoto way of doing things is a small price to pay.

IPhoto 6 conversion results in lost film rolls

I just upgraded to iPhoto 6 from iPhoto 5.x. My iPhoto Library contains more than 5000 photos. The conversion process completed successfully and all my photos and albums appear to be there.
However... about half way down the list of photos (at Roll 375 of 414), the Library conversion process apparently lumped dozens of my film rolls together into one gigantic roll with 1700+ photos. Then.. it continues on with rolls correctly allocated to the end of the file (roll 414).
Anyone have any idea what is causing this flaw in the conversion process? And more importantly... is there anyway I can get my film rolls back?
BTW... 'Film Rolls' is selected under the View menu, and toggling it on/off does not solve the problem.
John

Ok. after first panicking and not reading further on how to fix iphoto, i calmed down and did the reading i should have done first. Seems that holding down the option and command key at iphoto boot-up initiates a rebuild command.
I did a complete rebuild and all the photos are back in order. Not sure why this occurred but I'm happy that it was fixable.
Iphoto rules.

Merging film rolls in iPhoto 2

Can I merge film rolls in iPhoto 2, and if so, how?
Thank you!

• Mark all the images you want to consolidate with a checkmark (or some unique keyword).
• In library view, do a keyword search to bring up just those images.
• Create a temporary folder on the desktop, and drag the images from iPhoto to this folder (copies will be transferred to the folder, and the original file creation dates will be retained).
• Once the copies have finished exporting, move all the "checked" images from the library view to the iPhoto trash.
• Finally, drag the entire contents of the temporary folder to the iPhoto window to import all at once (or drag the folder to the album pane to create an album at the same time)

Multiple film rolls in source library

Belated thanks to those who helped me create new film rolls (in August!) Your advice was accurate, but my source library shows no film rolls except 'last roll'(although there are many rolls shown on the hard disk). When I create a new selection of photos in a new film roll it simply makes that selection 'last roll' and I can't rename it.

Yes, Film Rolls are very flexible. You can drag selected photo(s) into another roll. Don't release the mouse until the roll header is highlighted, and then the photos will drop into that roll. Command-click to add photos to your selection; that's the easiest way to select photos from different rolls at once. When they are selected, drag any one of them to the header of the roll to which you want them added. Or make your selection and do File > Create Film Roll to bring them into a new roll.
Film Rolls only list chronologically, in ascending or descending order. So if you'd like to tweak the order of your rolls a bit, you can edit the film roll date. It's independent from the dates of the photos, so it doesn't hurt anything to change it.
Have fun.

"View Film Rolls" is not Highlighted.... how can I get to it? (iPhoto 6)

"View Film Rolls" is not Highlighted.... how can I get to it? (iPhoto 6)

Since you're using the term Rolls you must be running iPhoto 6 or earlier. For future problems be sure you post in the iPhoto 6 or forum.
For this problem the View File rolls will only Be sure you're clicked on the Library. That menu item is not available in an album or other item. If you have clicked the library icon first and it's still grayed out close iPhoto, delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder and then try again.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
Note: There's now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard.

How can I change the order of photos in a film roll?

I've scanned in images and then imported them to i-photo and they are not in order on the film roll in i-photo. Does anyone know how I can re-order them within the roll?
Thanks
Ruth

There's only two way to arrange photos in the roll itself while having the rolls visible in the organize window. They are last file created first or last file created last.
You can create an album of that roll and then arrange them manually, by date, by file name. If by date or file name and you want them sorted alphanumerically or chronologically you'll have to make sure the check box, "Place most recent photos at the top" is unchecked in the iPhoto Preferences/Appearances pane.
OT

Can't get rid of the film roll info

Hi. I want to edit and export a photo from iPhoto, but the film roll information is in front of the photo, and I can't get rid of it. I have tried pushing "get info" and the info button in the lower left corner. I don't really understand why anyone at Apple would think it's a useful feature to block your photos with the film roll information. Nothing I can think of makes it go away. Please help me, obviously not a very bright person, figure out what those geniuses thought was an intuitive way to end a very annoying "feature." Thanks.

Do you mean the date?
iPhoto -> Preferences -> uncheck 'Show Scrolling Information'.
Regards
TD

Can iPhoto 9 display my film rolls like iPhoto 6 did?

Hi,
I've just installed iLife '11 and my iPhoto library is all over the place.
Everything used to be in order by date which was at the right hand side of the title on each film roll but now all the rolls or 'events' as they're now known are displayed as avatars with the date below in small writing. I liked the old way as it was in order and i could manipulate it the way i wanted it.
For instance, i have numerous rolls which contain photos of the same thing but which are all taken at different times and now these rolls are listed by the first photo's date.
I don't want the rolls displayed in this new fashion with a photo from each, i want a long list which i can scroll down and find what I'm looking for then open. It's easier for me to organise my pictures like that. I could add or remove photos to and from different rolls by just dragging and dropping them.
I have several rolls which are added to frequently and edited at the same time.
Is there any way to get round this?
Is there any way to display my photos as a list instead of this photo montage?
Thanks.

Have you looked at Photo view - that basically is how it works
You also can view the library in photos view
And albums and folders are an easier way of doing what you wnat
as to going back - sure - load the backup of your iPhoto 6 library and reinstall iPhoto 6 from the original source
LN

Film rolls and photo dates out of whack

I opened my iPhoto ver. 5.04 the other day and noticed that thousands of pictures were absent. After doing a search here I tried rebuilding the library (using the option+command buttons at startup). While the rebuild returned the photos into iPhoto, they were all lumped into a single enormous film roll and most of the dates are reporting incorrectly in the iPhoto info window. The photos are still organized in the iPhoto library folders, but the application is not organizing nor recocnizing them correctly. What can I do?

doug:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Not a lot. Evidently the library database got damaged and the rebuild date is probably the latest modified date for many of the files. Once you get to that point there's essentially nothing one can do.
A possible tip for future use is to put our new photos to be imported into a folder on the desktop first, date and name the folder and then import that folder into iPhoto, like this. The resulting roll will have the same title as the folder and the date will help with future organization.
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Film Roll - sort option

I would love to be able to sort my photos by Film Roll. Right now you can -- well, sorta.
It only sorts them by the date of the film roll. I would like the option to sort by 1) Film Roll date, or 2) Film Roll name. This would allow me to sort my "rolls" in a grouping other than chronilogical, and many times I don't want to have to use albums (smart or otherwise) for a brief change in the display order (albums do have their place, but not always the best option).
Any thoughts from others on here?

Yim:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. As far as I can determine the only sorting of rolls is by roll date, either ascending or descending. The date can be edited. I haven't figured out how iPhoto sorts multiple rolls with the same date. I've changed some dates on rolls to the same date and some end up on top and some at the bottom of those with the same date. It's not alphabetical. I think it has something to do with the modified date of the files.
You can post a feature request at http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html

Film rolls are missing

One of my iPhoto libraries has film rolls missing and rebuilding thumbs and database did not help. I can see the original photos in the iPhoto library on the hard drive though, so I would not want to reimport. Is there a way to show the film rolls again without re-importing?
Thanks,

Since the original photos are still in the iPhoto
library, (even if I drag the folder to the desktop),
how do I avoid having a second set of the same photos
when I re-import them into that iPhoto library? Can I
select Preferences-Advanced and tick NOT import
photos into iPhoto library? In this way, it will give
me an alias pointing back to the existing library,
give me my film rolls back, but no dupes?
After dragging to the desktop it is necessary to go in iPhoto and delete the remains from there. I was going on the assumption (correct me if I am wrong) that the photos from the missing rolls have either thumbnails or empty boxes in the iPhoto window. Delete them in iPhoto, then empty iPhoto trash before you reimport. Otherwise, iPhoto won't recreate their thumbnails and the reimport will not work.
I don't believe that creating an alias will help, because it won't fix the link that has been broken. Plus, it will add more confusion to your library.
Thank you all for your help. Thing is that I
understand that they will have to be re-imported if
the rolls are missing, but WHY are the rolls missing?
I don't know. It usually results from user activity in the iPhoto library folder from within Finder. The simple act of renaming a roll's folder in Finder will cause iPhoto to be unable to access all of the files stores inside that roll. If you haven't done that, then it's a mystery. [I had gremlins that rearranged my files during my upgrade from iPhoto 5 to iPhoto 6. Modified files traded places with Originals, some files were missing from Originals but present in Modified-it was weird. I used this method to sort everything out and haven't had a problem since the upgrade.]
I use iPhoto Buddy to select my iPhoto libraries (I
have about 10 libraries) and one of those libraries
was corrupted (due to overloaded photobook I think),
but the iPhoto library in question, that I was not
using, has film rolls missing when I opened the
library. (I'm afraid this is going to get contagious
and affect my other iphoto libraries too!)
I haven't seen other reports of iPhoto Buddy breaking connections like this, but I don't use it so I can't really speculate. I would expect to see lots of complaints if this happened very frequently at all.
For the future, keep a current backup of the Library6.iPhoto file for each of your libraries. It is located inside the iPhoto library folder; Duplicate it in Finder and move the copy. This is the database file which contains the metadata about albums, rolls, keywords, etc. If your database fails in the future you can simply replace this file with the backup to restore your library. I take this advice from Old Toad and backup the file every time I close iPhoto.

Film Roll Questions

Hi - I have a few questions regarding film rolls.
(1) Is there any way to have film rolls appear in the source pane, or is the only way to get a list of rolls by selecting View > Film Rolls?
(2) How can I rename a film roll after import?
(3) How can I re-date a film roll after import?
Thanks in advance,
Tim

Timu:
1 - the only place to view by film rolls is the main library as you've identified.
2 & 3 - Yes. Click on the file roll's icon and then go to the Info window at the bottom of the Source pane. You'll be able to edit the title field of the roll and the first date field. The other date fields represent the range of modified dates I believe and cannot be edited.
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