Can I purchase only PART of Sun Studio 10 ???

I am a long-time UnixWare Developer who is contemplating switching myself and my clients to Solaris 10. Solaris is free of course, but Sun Studio is very expensive -- about $3000 -- which is over 10 times more than I paid for the UnixWare Development Kit.
The only thing I really need is the C++ compiler and supporting libraries, and programs like "make", etc. Even though I have produced several hundred thousand lines of code, I haven't used a debugger in years, and don't need an IDE.
Can just PARTS of Sun Studio 10 be purchased independently, or is it "all or nothing"? I would be more likely make the move if I didn't have to invest in so much overkill. Components beyond the basics might hold an attraction as a separate -- and later -- investment.
Thanks,
David H. Braun (owner/developer, MultiTask ComputerWorks)
P.S. -- If this is not currently possible, could someone pass this on as a suggestion to higher authorities at Sun. Enabling smaller quantum leaps always increases the likelihood a transition will take place.

David,
Please send your question to [email protected]
Thank you,
tom

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