Can I re-install OS 9 on a drive with OS X?

This question appeared earlier under an incorrect subject line. My apologies.
I am unable to boot from OS 9.2.2 on a G4 that I use almost exclusively with OS X. I am wondering if there is a way to re-install OS 9 without disturbing the rest of the hard drive. I have the OS 9.0.4 disk that came with the computer, which will boot the machine.
My motivation to use OS 9 now is that I have to re-install an OS 9 program in order to use an OS X upgrade disk that has to see the OS 9 version to upgrade. What a pain!
Thanks.
BC

Hi, BC -
Yes, you can do that.
Use the Software Install CD that came with the machine (not the Software Restore CD - the Restore CD installs too much, and careless use of it can cause the drive to be wiped clean).
Do a Clean Install of OS 9.0.4 (a Clean Install of OS 9 will not erase anythig on the drive), followed by installing version updates to take the OS 9.0.4 to the final version you need. You will not be able to skip any of the intermediate versions to get to the final one.
Article #58176 - Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9: Performing a Clean Installation
Article #75103 - Mac OS 9.1 - Download and Info
Article #120030 - Mac OS 9.2.1 - Download and Info
Article #75186 - Mac OS 9.2.2 - Download and Info
You can also start with a retail OS 9.1 or OS 9.2.1 Install CD (all retail OS 9 Install CDs have a white label with a large gold 9) to reduce the number of download updates needed; do a Clean Install from that CD, followed by whatever download update(s) you need.
The version of the Startup Disk control panel that comes with OS 9.0.4 and OS 9.1 is not capable of 'seeing' OSX as a viable OS, hence will make switching back from OS 9 to OSX difficult. If you want to stay at either of those versions, you can update just that control panel to one which can see OSX -
Startup Disk 9.2.1 Document and Software
If the hard drive is not visible on the desktop when you boot the machine to the OS 9 install CD, that indicates that the hard drive was last formatted using OSX's Disk Utility and that the option to install OS 9 drivers was not selected. In the absence of those drivers the drive can not be mounted by any OS 9.
If the hard drive is the original, it may be possible to recover from that with erasing it. This Apple KBase article discusses that possibility -
Article #106849 - Disk Is Available in Mac OS X But Not in Mac OS 9
Unfortunately re-installing OS 9 drivers rarely works. If the drive does not have OS 9 drivers, and re-installing them does not work, then the only remaining solution is to reformat (re-initialize) the drive using either OS 9's Drive Setup or OSX's Disk Utility. If the latter, make sure to select the option to install OS 9 drivers. Caution - doing this will completely erase the drive, so be sure you have backed up anything you do not want to lose.
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A perhaps easier solution would be to get a new hard drive and install it as a second drive in your G4. Your G4 is pre-equipped to accept a second drive - cable connections, both data and power, are already present. This drive could then be used solely for OS 9 purposes, and perhaps also as supplemental file backup for the original (OSX) drive.
Having the two OS's on separate volumes will also asllow the use of Startup Manager during boot to select which you wish to use for startup at that time.
Article #HT1310 - Startup Manager: How to Select a Startup Volume
If you opt to do this, be sure the drive does not exceed 128GB in size. The built-in controller for the hard drives has a hardware limit of being able to 'see' a drive no laarger than that; drives larger than 128GB can be used, but will appear as being only 128GB in size after formatting. Because this is a drive size limit, and not a volume size limit, partitioning will not get around the limit.

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