Can i retain my app tabs & tab groups in new firefox window after i close one ??

Just upgraded to Firefox 5 and used the awesome features of app tabs and tab groups, but ah ! i closed my browser and when i opened it again, everything was lost. :(
How can i retain my app tabs and tab groups when i open a new browser window after closing the one in which these were created ?
Will be a great help if we can do it.

Thx for your answer.
But when I select the option to empty everything when I close Firefox I can chose what is deleted
- Cookies
- Download history
- Cache
etc...
There should be an option for pinned tabs. Especially because this tabs are not simple tabs but tabs you want to keep.
The only solution I have found so far is to keep emptying everything and to ask to Firefox to start a folder of bookmarks as my homepage (homepage <=> several URLs separated with | )
But it opens wide tabs and not small pinned ones :/
We should have the option !

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