Can I use a compatible Nokia USB cable?

It seems like an obvious question, but I want to avoid making a fatal mistake!
Please note: the only reason I wish to do this is for convenience (1 cable permanently attached to my pc/ 1 cable permanently attached to charger).
I can see the Sony & Nokia micro USB cables are "identical".
I have plugged in my Sony charger plug to the electricity with the Nokia micro USB attached.
When I then connect it to my Sony z1 the device appears with a message “Go Connect”…
I have not continued until I get some advice please.
Should I initiate “Go Connect”?
Should the Nokia USB cable work? [note: as I am only attaching the cable to the Sony charger plug, then the voltage should be controlled by the Sony charger plug, no?]
Do I have any risks in using it? [I understand “it is recommended to use Sony original chargers”]
Will the phone still recognise both the charger with the Nokia USB cable and the Sony USB cable on my pc without any conflicts?
Would it also be ok to use it as the USB cable on the pc?
I really appreciate help – it will simplify my life!
Phone: Sony Z1 Compact
Android 4.4.4
Sony Charger plug: EP880
Sony USB/ charger cable: EC801 [micro USB data cable]
Nokia cable: CA179 [micro USB data cable]
Solved!
Go to Solution.

A cable is a cable - Some cheap and some not - The use of a standard fit is to stop manufactures claiming part of the market for themselves however there are some manufactures that are exempt - So yes the cable will be fine - If using it froma mains plug then the output should not exceed 5v and 1.5a or 1500ma
For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. Richard P. Feynman

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Well, haven't got much further here unfortunately, though I have more logs and debug information now:
First, I connect the blackberry to the USB port and run 'lsusb':
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0fca:0004 Research In Motion, Ltd.
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Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
so I have my blackberry device listed by the looks of things..
I then run (for more info):
peter ~ $ lsusb -v -d 0fca:0004
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0fca:0004 Research In Motion, Ltd.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 1.10
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 16
idVendor 0x0fca Research In Motion, Ltd.
idProduct 0x0004
bcdDevice 1.07
iManufacturer 1 Research In Motion
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iSerial 3 8F606BB12465F80D8C6F4F3CA17D9CC896C5F475
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 97
bNumInterfaces 2
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 500mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 8
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 1
bInterfaceProtocol 255
iInterface 2 BlackBerry
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
bInterval 0
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Baud = 115200
Init1 = ATZ
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;Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
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Modem = /dev/tty2
Init3 = AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","wap.movistar.com.ec"
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Password = movistar
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SAY "\nIf the following ppp negotiations fail,\n" \
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Jul 29 21:11:11 el-duro kernel: ACPI: EC: GPE storm detected, transactions will use polling mode
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Here are my logs..
=============
/var/log/kernel.log :
Jul 29 21:11:11 el-duro kernel: ACPI: EC: GPE storm detected, transactions will use polling mode
Jul 29 21:11:52 el-duro kernel: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
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Jul 29 21:11:53 el-duro kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
Jul 29 21:11:53 el-duro kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
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Jul 29 21:11:11 el-duro kernel: ACPI: EC: GPE storm detected, transactions will use polling mode
Jul 29 21:11:13 el-duro logger: ACPI action undefined: BAT1
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Jul 29 21:12:04 el-duro dnsmasq[2316]: ignoring nameserver 127.0.0.1 - local interface
Maybe the blackberry required 'usb_modeswitch' - though I could not work out how to use this command
Any ideas out there? Is there a simple way for me to probe USB devices in use? As far as I can tell it IS /dev/tty2 but I need to confirm this.
Many thanks,
Last edited by minimal (2010-07-30 14:55:19)

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