Can K8N sli Platinum be upgraded for PCIE 2.1?

Hi. Quick question as per the subject. Can the K8N sli Platinum motherboard BIOS be updated to recognise a PCIE 2.1 MSI R5570 graphics card.
We did one BIOS update using the Live Update online thing but when we try and check to see if another newer update is now due the PC shuts down and says that we have got to undo an overclocking thing!!! The BIOS update was dated something like July 08 and I don't know if PCIE 2.1 was around then.
I now assuming that there isn't a BIOS update for this motherboard to allow PCIE 2.1. Bit worried that the BIOS update that we did has done something bad although everything other than checking for the updates again seems to be working? Just putting Windows 7 on and that seems to be going fine.
Do I send the graphics card back, or can I upgrade the motherboard and still use all or a lot of the rest of the existing items like the CPU and the memory, or will a new motherboard which accepts PCIE 2.1 pretty much force an upgrade to the whole lot? CPU = AMD Athlon 64 3500+ and memory = Corsair (TWINX1024-3200XLPT) 1024MB (2x512M Matched Pair). Things like wireless and disk drive etc shouldn't need changing would they?
Thanks

Quote from: Svet on 04-December-10, 21:26:07
No, the board is too old
Based on posts on this forum, i bought Radeon HD 4770, so not to get 5xxx series, i was eager to get. But nevertheless MSI K8N Diamond won't boot with 4770. Error code says it halts on "Testing VGA Bios".
And when searching for possible fixes i came upon AMD forum where people were complaining about the 5xxx series not working with nForce 4 chipset, but most of them got an easy fix - email the support of the mainboard company and recieve new BIOS - so all the Gigabyte users got their machines running by just sending 1 email and waiting for few hours.
I do hope MSI will respond and be as generous as the rivals, otherwise it will look bad for future buyers.

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PCI Express, K8N SLI Platinum.

Hi,
AFAIK it's not possible. You can only use the second PCIExpress as x1(for other devices) or x8 (for GC)
Right !?
wpr

Problems with older PCI-Videocards on K8N SLI Platinum ??

Hi there,
i just recieved my K8N SLI Platinum (without NEO) yesterday. Unfortunatly my new PCIe-Videocard isn't here yet,
so i just built my rig with an old S3 Trio64 to install Windows etc. and to have at least my PC for some surfing and so on...
The problem is:
The Card is marked with an ! in the device-manager. It says the card couldn't get its required resources, and that i'd have to
disable some other device of the system first to fully use the videocard. I checked for IRQ's, but the card has an exclusive one.
I put it in the second (middle) PCI-Slot on the board. Due to that error, the drivers are not installed correctly and the performance
of the display is ... well its even to slow for scrolling pages while surfing ... thats realy anoying, and my PCIe-card will not be here
until the end of next week
I even manged to get another old PCI-dinosaur, but with no luck. The same Problem persists. So i think it's some problem with
the board or some iossettings. The only thing regarding display in the bios was the PCIe / PCI switch which is correctly set to PCI.
So if anyone knows how to get an old PCI-card running in that board, please help me
[ApoC]

Well,
"f***ing up" the OS is not a problem, i got a GHOST of my perfectly fresh & clean OS.
I have disabled:
both SATA-Controllers (still running on good old ATA Samsung SpinPoint P80)
the FireWire-Controller (which is shown in Windows anyways )
I changed the videocard from PCI 2 to PCI 1, with the only result that it shares IRQ with the OnBoard-Soundblaster in slot1.
In slot2 it gets an exclusive IRQ. The problem is, i can't even see what resources are making trouble since Windows doesn't
show any information in the cards resource-infos but that it ain't working (say what?)
*sigh*
[ApoC]
Edith says:
I remember problems with the APIC-Mode on many nForce-2 Boards. Could this still be a problem? Any infos on that matter yet?

PCI Express, K8N SLI Platinum.

Hello everybody.
Is there anybody out there who has tried this setup och similar.
I'm about to get this MB K8N SLI Platinum with Dual PCI Express 16 slots.
The first will be occupied by a standard ATI PC-express 16X Grafic card
The Second will be occupied by the PCI Express 4X Promise Supertrak EX8350 8-Channel RAID.
My Questions are these.
1. Have anybody tried a similar setup.
2. Will the Promisecard downclock to 1X while on the second PCI-X slot
I will build a 2 TB Raid 5 on this controller but unsure if the MSI can do it.
PCI-Express 16 should be backward(downward) compatible but i have read that some motherboards only use 1X when it's not a graphic board and this is a 4X card.
Many thanks in advance.

Hi,
AFAIK it's not possible. You can only use the second PCIExpress as x1(for other devices) or x8 (for GC)
Right !?
wpr

Can't open BIOs Set-up, K8N SLI Platinum, after re-flash

I used the USB Bio flash tool from the forum to re-flash the BIOs on my K8N SLI Platinum board to the latest BIOS from the MSI site, specs below.
After the re-flash, which seemed to go okay, I cleared the CMOS (turned off and unplugged computer, pushed the clear cmos button for about a minute), and re-booted.
I get a checksum error, no floppy found. I don't have a floppy drive in any case. But then I am unable to enter the bios. Pushing delete at boot gets me a screen that's blank, save for a cursor in the upper left corner. I can't enter anything from there, ESC key doesn't do anything. So I have to reboot.
I can get to the POST screen and pressing F1 allows the system to start and get to Windows, which seems to run okay. System shows that the new BIOS is installed. I just can't get into it to re-set to default settings.
If I turn off the computer, I get the checksum error again and in Windows clock and date have to be reset. But if I just reboot I just have to go through the no floppy found, then push f1 to get back to windows which has retained settings.
I tried doing the flash procedure again and got same result. I haven't tried flashing back to the old BIOs yet. MSI's site only lists the most recent BIOs, my preference would be to try a different one, but not as old as the 2005 version that was on there.
Hopefully someone can tell me something obvious that I'm missing here.
Rick
Windows XP Professionnel
Version   5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Nu 2600
Motherboard K8N SLI Platinum, with Nvidia nForce 4 SLI chipset
Model   MS-7100
Typ   X86-based PC
AMD 64 3500+ ~2211 Mhz
BIOS/Date   Phoenix Technologies, LTD V 3.12, 10/27/2008
Version SMBIOS   2.3
4,096.00 Mo RAM

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I'd also like the RAM to run at at least 333, rather than the 200 something it runs at with this BIOS.
Check this with CPU-Z at "memory tab" ==> http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
BIOS post screen info can be incorrect., or current older BIOS by 200MHz it may means 400DDR In all cases its cosmetics,
the way of showing real of effective freq. can be changed in future version.
Also with four sticks it should be shown as either 333 or 166, not 200 or 400
Best check with CPU-Z how they are running
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It may now be possible to put something faster in there, but I don't know that for sure. But the 4000+ should improve performance a bit.
Such old CPU's can't be found easy in present days, also its not good investing to invest in old stuffs.
You want W7 and such, changing to the best CPU wont improve much the performance in overall..
Soon or later you have to change it, then this and eventually "newest" CPU which you gonna get will became useless.

So, is a -5V pin supply still required for MSI K8N SLI Platinum or not ???

I am looking to buy a new custom made computer. I want the MSI K8N SLI Platinum motherboard for it. The problem is that the non-USA page claims that it requires the -5V pin supply. I have read many threads on this same topic, but havent found a definitve answer.
Is the -5V rail still needed or not ???
I read somewhere that USA models dont require it, as its not mentioned on the USA site. Well my one will most probably be from Taiwan.....
Is there a check, through which I can confirm whether the motherboard my local hardware store is selling, requires a -5V pin supply or not???
lastly, is that a specific model number, from which onwards, the requirement is no longer needed ????
thanx in advance

I agree with SAB only because mine has been rock solid for quite some time. If I could afford it, I would have purchased SAB's PC Power & Cooling 510 model.
The only other model that seems to have the -5v rail are the OCZ psu. However, I have noticed a lot of users with tagan's and have yet to see someone complain about this psu. Im running the 12v rail as a single rail at 30a...you can experiment with the dual rails and it will adjust to the need of your mobo up to 20a on each rail but then the other rail gets only 10a (at least I think thats how it works).
The tagan 480w u22 was built for the future:
1. has a 20/24 pin main power connector - shielded
2. a 4/8 pin cpu power connector - shielded
3. 2 - 6pin vga connectors - shielded
4. 4 - sata hdd connectors
5. Whisper quiet - you just dont hear it
6. 12v rail at 30a - peak load at startup to 35a for 60 seconds
7. 70% to 73% efficiency rating
Is it enough juice? It seems to me that the manufacturers have realized that pretty soon we will have to purchase $500 psu's just to keep up. So IMO, the manufacturers seem to be getting the point. The new 90nm AMD chips take less power than the 130nm chips...and the new 7800gt video cards take up less power than the 6800gt video cards. In the future, AMD will be coming out with a 65nm chip, which will need even less power.
So I think Im right at the sweet spot with the 12v@30a and its also flexible enough to switch to a dual rail system if I need that feature in the future. Tagan does make a 530w and 580w psu too, but they are not as quiet and you only get 2 more amps on the 12v rail as you go up the line. Just my 2 cents.

K8n SLI Platinum can't get OS to boot

Linked over from https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=97317.0
Greetings - This is linked from the above thread and I was advised to come here to see if anyone could sheed some light on this...
System is:-
AMD64 3500+
1gb of Corsair Low latency 2-2-2-5
2 barracuda 300gb hard drives
K8N SLI Platinum mo-bo (now sadly running in single card mode...)
PSU - Hiper HPU-4S525
NX6600GT TD128E (Newer version)
Forceware - Nvidia Version: 84.21.
Problem is - I have two versions of the 6600GT and the older one will work without a problem - either in SLI or in single card mode but the newer one causes the machine to hang at OS boot - I have tried booting with the card in slot two (running in SLI mode) with the card in slot 1 (running in non-sli mode) and with the newer card in slot 1 (running in SLI) but still the same result - Is it the card, my PCU or a mo-bo problem?!?!
Any advice/help Greatly appreciated!

What motherboard BIOS version are you running? The original?
A newer version might help: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=641&kind=1

K8N-SLI Platinum strange behaviour

Hi there
Apart from the northbridge making a weird noise sometimes when the motherboard is on it's side (i.e. tower case standing upright), the motherboard started behaving strangely on saturday
first the computer refused to find my network, always assigning a local ip, so i tried rebooting the router a few times, and then checked my other computer which is connected to the router fine
then i tried to play a game and noticed the sound had gone, and then the game kept quitting barely after i started it so i gave that up
then, after i had to move the mouse between this one and another computer, the usb ports (all of them, no matter whether through pci card or on motherboard, the mouse stopped working
throughout all of this i rebooted many times.
i finally gave up in the evening, and the next morning on a whim i turned the computer on and everything was fine, what's going on?!?! is this linked to the northbridge at all? i've monitored all the fans and temps and all are normal and running constantly ( cpu never above 40c)
is the motherboard losing it, or maybe the power supply (all voltages seem normal too...)
my spec
Amd 64 3000+ venice
MSI K8N-SLI Platinum
2x512mb Geil Ram
1xSata 250gig western digital hard disk drive
1x Xfx 6600GT 256mb
480w Tagen power supply (can't remember which off had, not the 2force one, the other cheap one, it's modular tho)
i was going to take the motherboard back, but now it's working fine i'm sure they wont accept it
please help
thank you in advance
Reaps

Possible suggestions are as follows: Although the manual states that your power supply should be 450w or above i think that with your PSU your fairly border line. Remember that your psu will only draw the power that it requires and as soon as you start putting 256 Mb graphics cards and upgrading to more ram it is using even more resources and can cause your system to have all sorts of dramas and Re-boots.With your network connection problems this could be due to either network problems in your area which BT or your telephone provider can help you with or as i have recently found out.. too many net work connections that may conflict with each other.Go to your controll panel,Network and internet connections then network connections you should have your broadband or dial up connection listed. If you have more than one connection listed and for instance you dont use LAN (local area connection) Networking then you will have to uninstall this connection and disable all Lan options from the Bios i.e nVidia Mac LAN, nVidia Mac LAN ROM, Marvell Gigabit LAN, Marvell Gibyte rom.A possible other prob may be to disable your IEEE 1394 connection from the bios as i had similar problems to yours but am now okay. I am not saying any of these are related directly to your problems however they are possibilities which you may like to try. Please note also that your USB problems can be solved by using the latest Bios update (which i personally have never had any problems with) but may be risky if you have no idea how to flash your bios. My advice on this would be to read the moderators (Bas..i think) instructions as to how to do this or as he suggests unistall all your motherboards usb drivers that were installed from the disk provided by your Motherboard Manafacturer, Re-boot and let windows re-install its own USB drivers which certainly worked for me.
Q-TEC 650W PSU
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
MSI K8N SLI Platinum N-Force4 MOB
2x 512Mb Hynix DDR 400 RAM Modules(Single)
Gainforce GeForce 7800 GT
Samsung 120 GB SATA

MSI k8N SLI Platinum - dead??

Hello,
I have started the PC as per usual. Pushed the power button... nothing. Then again... nothing. Then I swithed off from the switch near the mains entry. and switched on... PC started however I get nothing on the screen. No beeps.
I have an Antec Truecontrol 2.0 power supply, an MSI K8N SLI Platinum (socket 939) with AMD Athlon, 2 GB Corsair TWINX Ram, three HDDS SATA, Raptor 75GB as Primary (C:) and another two WDS. Video Card: BFG 7800GTX+ 256MB OC, PCI - Express.
System has functioned Ok for three and a half years at least. I have replaced the Northbridge Fan from the beginning with a Blue heatsink - I believe Zalman. No temp issues. No overclocking, I am not using any commander modes etc etc.
When I look at the D-Bracket I get Memory Init Error (RED-GReen-Red-Red). I am pretty sure it is not the RAM. I pulled the RAM, used only one stick... same error.
I pulled the video card out. Then interestingly the system reaches the phase just before booting and the D_Bracket shows Floppy Init error (Green-Red-Green-Green). I tried moving the video card to the second PCI -ex - I also reach the Floppy Error point. I put in a crappy PIC-Ex video card - I reach the same Floppy init point - the floppy actually seeks but does not try to read. Unfort I forgot where I put the Monitor adapter thingy so I can;t check if I get anything on the screen with the crappy PCI-Ex video card. Will get it... soon...
I have a hard time determining whether it is the Video card or the mainboard. I have pulled the battery out, left overnight, pushed the BIOS reset... nothing helped. With Video Card in PCI-Ex slot 1, I get the memory init error. With the card in PCI-Ex slot 2 or with no card or with crappy PCI-Ex, I get to the Floppy Init point.
Could it be that at that point I would be getting a VGA error that I cannot see on the screen ? Why then NO BEEPS? Does this Mobo model not beep, just uses the D-Bracket?
It is important - if it is the mobo I am done for, I have to buy Mobo, RAM, CPU... $1,000. If it is the Video card I may find something 1 slot wide and similar to the BFG ...
Can anyone help narrow this please ?
BTW on the screen I get NOTHING, if I pull out the cable the monitor says - check connection, if I plug it in the monitor goes to power saving.
Thank you Heaps

Quote from: Bas on 19-January-09, 00:17:28
Put a stick of memory in there of el-cheapo brand.
Those Corsairs you have need more voltage to start if I'm not mistaken.
Found out what the prob was - the BFG 7800GTX was DEAD. RMA-ed the card. the MSI Mobo is Ok

MSI K8N SLI Platinum crashed with my videocard

Hi. I don't speak english very vell, so sorry
A bought an MSI K8N SLI Platinum mainboard, 7800 GTX Videocard and I don't know use it with NON SLI mode If the SLI card there in NON-SLI mode, my pc isn't run. Just black screen, and the D-Bracket is show, that the booting is stopped in memory-control (second LED is red.) If I turn my SLI card for SLI mode, accordingly the PCI-E bus is 8x and my PC is run.
My problem is that, that I don't know run my pc in PCI-E x16
I tried 6 BIOS, but always was this is the problem
Ha van itt magyar ember, akkor magyarul a probléma:D:
Szóval van egy ilyen lapom, de nem tom használni 7800 GTX-el. Egyszerűen nem tudom használni non sli módba, a kép mindig fekete és memória-ellenőrzésnél megáll sli módban meg megy a gép, de csak 8x-os üzemmódba. ugyan ez a hiba egy 6600 gt-vel is. Szóval helllllp

Quote from: ChakkaSol on 30-October-05, 08:57:50
First, search the internet for a free translater program and cut n paste. Second, you need to place the graphics card in the pcie slot next to the cpu. Third, you need to make sure the SLI switch card is placed "non-sli" with the arrow pointed towards the graphics card. Finally, you need to make sure your SLI switch card is fully in place so the copper teeth dont show (I made that mistake and my rig didnt boot either). Just my 2 cents.
1st -- ok
2nd - the video card is there next to the cpu in 1st PCI-E bus
3rd -- the SLI switch card is placed non-sli with the arrow pointed towards the graphics card.
fin --- well, i have no idea about this, 'couse after i've removed the card, i could not push it back to its place fully anymore, so the copper teeth show up. I also tried to force it with a screwdriver, but it didn't work. but i can turn on the card holder

Another little niggle with the MSI K8N SLI Platinum

Hello, I have just been benchmarking using Everest.
I did a mem read test and the result below is wrong, I have an amd64 venice 3200.
I had run this test earlier in the day and it was showing the 3200.
CPU   CPU Clock   Motherboard   Chipset   Memory   Read Speed
Athlon64   2000 MHz   MSI K8N Diamond / K8N SLI Platinum (MS-7100)   nForce4-SLI   Dual PC3200 DDR   5270 MB/s
thanks
ps. I have just noticed that outlook express is taking twice as long to open :(
pps I must have had to much to drink, or something just got logs from mirc and here is what it said
Athlon64   2000 MHz   MSI K8N Diamond / K8N SLI Platinum (MS-7100)   nForce4-SLI   PC3200 DDR SDRAM   3045 MB/s
This is what it is reading after sorting the ram stick problem out.
CPU   CPU Clock   Motherboard   Chipset   Memory   Read Speed
Athlon64   2000 MHz   MSI K8N Diamond / K8N SLI Platinum (MS-7100)   nForce4-SLI   Dual PC3200 DDR   5259 MB/s
Sorry for time wasting

Sorry flow, took to long to edit post
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=88965.0
this explains a little, and yes I have just built this comp, first attempt at a serious upgrade. Apart from problems with faulty stick of RAM in the beggining everything has run smoothly.
Then I discovered benchtesting and as I said earlier, am a bit how can I say it, mellow so thanks for the reply, and I hope you are still here when I attempt to overclock
I knew I should have come here first

[Resolved] No boot with K8N sli Platinum & AMD 64 X2 3800+

Hye,
I've received these new stuff last night (everything is good until here) :
- Antec Sonata II 450W
- MB MSI K8N SLI Platinum
- Proc. AMD 64 X2 3800+
- GC Sapphire X800 XL 256Mo
I've assembled all and turned it on... No bip... but all the fans are turning... and the screen says "No signal" and becomes black ( and me )
Can someone help me? Please?
On the MSI site, I also found this :
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=641&kind=1
Maybe the proc. and the Motherboard are not compatible? Has someone already tried this combinaison (MB+Proc.)?
My Thanks in advance.

Quote from: darinn on 12-November-05, 03:22:08
I will ask the sellers if they can update the Mobo for me.
But with the last version of the bios, will the mobo accept the dual-core with this proc. AMD 64 X2 3800+?
And if it's not possible I'll change the mobo.
Thanks .................................. again.
Pretty much any SLI motherboard supports the X2 3800. MSI is just really pathetic sometimes. So, I had the Abit AN8 SLI before and their latest BIOS (17) supports all X2 CPUs. But Im sure most other brands support them too.

Very slow USB on K8N SLI Platinum & Windows XP SP2

Hi!
I.e. deleting a folder with small 6000 files (all together they have ~50MB) from USB device lasts according to Windows about 100 minutes.
I've got K8N SLI Platinum with BIOS version 3.70, Windows XP SP2 with all updates and some recent nVidia nForce driver (however I'm not sure which version exactly).
In "Device manager" it looks like the USB driver is from Microsoft from year 2001. Are there some new drivers or something that can help to increase USB performance?
Thanks in advance

Usb's as stick say can't be compared to drives attached to a ide controller.
But you can check to make sure it's running at 2.0 speed like this.
If you look in device manager - on the view on menu - select "view devices by connection" .
Then expand the tree down to USB Enhanced (EHCI) and see if the "disk" is attected to this controller.
If it is you running usb2.0.
Here you see Verbatim Stor'n Go Usb 2.0 thumbdrive attached to the Standard Enhanced EHCI Controller (Usb 2.0)
The other circle shows a bluetooth device runnings as usb 1.1 and attached to the Standard OHCD Controller (Usb 1.1)
An other thing that slows it down is that cache is disabled ("optimized for quick removal") .

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K8N SLI PLATINUM QUESTIONS

Okay finally i overclocked a bit (i am not really in the overclocking business)
With Bios defaults settings without touching anything else i raised FSB to 220 MHz resulting to a 2.2 GHz CPU operating frequency a nice 10% overclock (of course i have disabled spread spectrum in bios) reaching that way the Athlon 64 3500+ .
Every thing seemed rock - stable!!..
However, when i tried to shut down the machine, i got a nice BSOD (Black screen of death) HDD light remained on . As far as i know the board is locking PCI-E , so graphics card and SATA drive should not causing the problem here.
So i raised the CPU core voltage up to 5% and oualla!! Rock stable ( 3 Hours Prime 95)
... did not try to rise chipset voltage or memory voltage (is set to 2.7 volts by memory SPD) since this was not necessary in my case. Might try some more overclocking in the future but right now i am happy with it and just will sit back and enjoy
There is a guy who succeeded in rising FSB to 358!!! Mhz with this board (well almost) he advices just not to enable Aggressive memory timings...
here
Anyway, Thanks for the tips guys
Best Regards,
Markoul

Is the Hiper Type- R 580 modular PSU compatible with MSI K8N SLI Platinum?

Hey guys, i just recently bought a Hiper Type R 580w PSU after my old PSU went bad.
I installed the new PSU a few hours ago and came across a problem, nothing shows up on screen.
When i turn on the computer, the green light is constantly on including my dvd/rw light.
I double checked everything were connected properly and everything seemed to be connected properly.
The cpu's fan are running properly including the graphics cards and the case's fan but i can't pinpoint whats causing the the green activity light to light constantly including the dvd/rw.
I also tried resetting CMOS but it didn't fix the problem.
So now i'm starting to wonder if it's to do with compatibility issues between the Hiper Type R PSU and my K8N SLI Platinum motherboard.
So i just wanted to know if the Hiper Type R 580 PSU is compatible with the K8N SLI platinum?
I would grately appreciate any assistance.

In short no.
The Hiper Type- R 580 does NOT have a -5V supply line
Although the -5V requirement has been removed from some MSI designs, the MSI page for the K8N SLI Platinum http://msicomputer.co.uk/Products.aspx?product_id=703525&cat_id=77 states:
Quote
MSI Reminds You...
• These two connectors (JPWR1 & JPWR2) connect to the ATX power supply and have to work together to ensure stable operation of the mainboard.
• Power supply of 450 watts (and above) is highly recommeded for system stability.
• For ATX 12V power connection, it should be greater than 18A.
• For this model, you must use the power supply that with a -5V pin supply.

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