Can LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 7.0 control LabVIEW 6.1 VIs?

I'm attempting to remotely control a LabVIEW 6.1 example VI through the browser plugin on another system. On that other system, can I use LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 7.0? Or do I need 6.1?

Never mind, I should have read the RTE 7.0 information first. I need LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 6.1 to run LabVIEW 6.1 VIs.

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Can I run two separate versions of the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine on one PC?

Hello, I am curious if anyone knew if it is possibly to install and use two separate versions of the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine on one PC? I currently have the 2009 Run-Time Engine installed on one machine and wanted to install the 2011 Run-Time Engine as well. I know that you can run two separate versions of the LabVIEW program on one machine, but what about the Run-Time Engine?
Thanks!
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I'm guessing this is a bug that NI needs to fix. I see no reason you shouldn't be able to install the run-time engine of an older version. I'd be interesed in if it allows you to install the older development environment, which also includes the older run-time engine. There are some command line switches for NI installers as mentioned here:
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/C361087EE9F20810862577850073128E
I wonder if there is a force install option.
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How can I uninstall Labview run time engine from the machine?

I understand that Labview has not given any provision to show customized 'License Agreement screen'. Isn't it? This is the main cause of my problem. Since I want to show our own license agreement (LA) screen, I made the one using Labview. To show this license agreement screen, I first install a small application which has only this LA screen with Labview run time engine. The customer can see License Agreement Screen with Labview Run Time Engine on his machine. If My customer accepts the LA, I will install the main application further by calling another setup.EXE file.
If my customer selects 'Do Not Agree' to the LA, I will quit the installation process. Here I also want to 'uninstall' Labview Run Time Engine
from his machine since he doesn't accept License. I would like to know how to uninstall Labview run time engine from his machine?
Another way which I could think is to run the LA screen from the CD with Labview run time engine on the CD. I will start installing the main S/W to the customer's machine with LABview Run Time Engine only after he accepts License agreement. I would like to know how to run the Labview application from CD without installing run time engine on the target machine?
Can anyone suggest solution to my problem?
Thanks,
Chander

J-Tek,
I would suggest re-installing the Run-time Engine and then uninstalling it after a reboot. Also, you can download a program called Msicuu.exe (for NT, 2000, XP or Msicu.exe for 9x) to help clean up the registry for uninstalled programs.
Randy Hoskin
Applications Engineer
National Instruments
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Can't install LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 6.1 on Windows Terminal Server

With my system admin, we tried to install the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 6.1 on our Windows Terminal Server NT4. And we get an error all the time:
-install using the plugin
-install using LVRTE.exe
-install after rebooting the server
But I remember that we could install the Run-Time Engine 6.0 on another Windows Terminal Server NT4.
Is there any compatibility issues with the new Run-Time Engine 6.1 ??
Thanks for your help
Cyrille

Cyrille,
What is the error that you get when trying to install the run-time engine?
Are you installing it from the LabVIEW CD, or did you download it from the web site?
To further troubleshoot this problem, it would be best if you send us an email to [email protected] and send the above information.
Also, try running the installer from the command prompt window, and use the following syntax:
setup.exe/l*v
This will save the error log to the file you specify. Send us also this file to help us troubleshoot.
Thanks
Zvezdana S.
National Instruments

Error 1722 when uninstalling Labview run-time engine 7.1.1

I have been trying to uninstall all NI software so I can start off with a clean slate. I have been going to the control panel under add/remove programs to remove the NI stuff. Everything is gone except the Labview run-time engine 7.1.1. Everytime i try to remove it, i get teh 1722 error followed by the 1603 error. I've tried repairing it but I still get the same results when i try to remove it agian. I've also tried removing it with MSI Blast. This did not work either. I've gone through the registry and manually deleted anything related to NI and that still didn't work. Is there anything else I could try?
Thanks,
Nick

Hey Steve,
I have tried repairing it through the control panel.
I tried reinstalling just the run-time engine and it said it was already installed. So I reinstalled Labview 7.1 and repaired the 7.1.1 run-time engine through the control panel. Then I uninstalled everything. Thanks for all your help
Thanks again,
Nick
Message Edited by Nick_C on 03-12-2007 03:57 PM

NI 5660 Driver DLL Errors when using Teststand 2010 and LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2010

This problem seems similar to the post "Resource not found error in executable on development machine." but I didn't want to repost under that thread because I only happened upon it by chance and none of my searches brought me there... so I made a more descriptive Subject.
I am working on a system that uses a PXI Chassis with a NI 5600 Downconverter and a NI 5620 high speed digitizer, among other PXI Cards.
I inherited working code written in LabVIEW 2010, running with the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2010. The code was using a custom executive and my task was to rewrite the test using TestStand 2010. I reused the majority of the old code. The old code used NI-5660 to control the 5600 and 5620. When I run my sequence using the LV Development System and TestStand, it runs without any issues. When I change the adapter over to LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2010, all of my NI5660 VIs become broken due to DLL issues. It warns that the nipxi5600u.dll was not initialized correctly. Many of the errors are associated with the NI Tuner and NI Scope. After this LabVIEW will crash randomly, and the seqeunce will not work in TestStand even when back with the LV Development Adapter. The only way to recover after this is to restart the computer - TestStand automatically reverts back to the development system, the VIs are no longer broken and the sequence works again.
I have all of my VIs associated with a project. After reading a little bit about DLLs and TestStand, I found all of the DLLs in the dependencies section of my project and added them to my TestStand workspace. I also used Dependency Walker to track down the problems with the nipxi5600u.dll, the 2 DLL files that it said were not found already existed in the same folder as the original DLL (C:\Windows\System32). I have also performed a Mass Compile to make sure everything was running in LV 2010. If I skip the steps involving the 5660, my entire sequence runs fine.
The previous code was running with the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine without any issues. Is there just a step I am missing? Has anyone seen anything like this before? I can send screenshots of errors to provide more detail if necessary.

I have tried some more things and still can't get it to work. I have added the VIs mentioned in the Notes On Creating Modulation Executables KB both to the TestStand workspace and the LabVIEW project holding all of my VIs. This did not change the results.
When I try to run my sequence, The first error I get is shown in Error 1445.bmp. This happens when I try to use the NI 5660 initialize.vi. If I click ignore, the next error I see is shown in Error -20551.bmp. When I try to open the VI to look at it, I get the 2 DLL errors shown in Error loading nipxi5600u.bmp and Error loading nidaq32.bmp. When I close TestStand, I get the error LabVIEW Fatal Error.bmp.
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LabVIEW 2011SP1 Error building installer: LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2013 is missing 3 dependencies???

I'm having a problem building an installer in LabVIEW 2011SP1.
It's been a while since I've tried to build an installer but it used to work fine and building executables is still working fine.
Now when I try to build the installer I get "The build was unsuccessful."
Possible reasons: Error generating preview for My Application 3.1.7.
Details:
Visit the Request Support page at ni.com/ask to learn more about resolving this problem. Use the following information as a reference:
CDK_Build_Invoke.vi.ProxyCaller >> CDK_Build_Invoke.vi >> CDK_Engine_Main.vi >> IB_MSI.lvclass:Build.vi >> IB_MSI.lvclass:Engine_InitializeDistribution.vi >> IB_MSI.lvclass:Report_Preview_Error.vi >> IB_Source_Container.lvclass:Report_Preview_Error.vi
Loading product deployment information
*** WARNING ***
NI LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2013 is missing 3 dependencies. This product, or other products that depend upon NI LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2013, may not function properly while the dependencies are missing. Visit ni.com/info and enter the Info Code "" for more information.
*** Error: An internal error occurred for which the cause is unknown. (Error code -41)
*** Error Details:
Error in MDF API function: _MDFCommon_GetNextLogMessage
Error in MDF::GetInstance - MDF static instance is not initialized!
*** End Error Report
Loading product deployment information
*** WARNING ***
NI LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2013 is missing 3 dependencies. This product, or other products that depend upon NI LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 2013, may not function properly while the dependencies are missing. Visit ni.com/info and enter the Info Code "" for more information.
The really strange thing about this is that I'm using LabVIEW 2011SP1, I don't even have LabVIEW 2013 installed, not even the runtime.
Where is the problem? Why is it even complaining about LabVIEW 2013? Has anyone seen this before?
Troy
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I do have the LabVIEW 2013 discs but didn't install it.
I checked in Control Panel > Programs and Features > National Instruments Software and the LabVIEW 2013 Run-Time is not listed there.
I also checked in MAX > Software and I must have missed it the first time I looked. LabVIEW Run-Time 2013 is listed there after all.
Now I remember installing VISA 5.4 to get rid of a nasty bug. It must have installed the 2013 Run-Time when I did that.
So now I need to distribute 2 runtimes with my application?!?!
Troy
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I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work - Thomas Edison
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Executable not working - Looking for LabVIEW Run-Time Engine

This has been one of those days.
I'm trying to create my .exe file to place onto another computer. I've done this before with success. But that was then and this is now.
I believe I have all the files I need in my LLB, and I believe I did my application distribution correctly and I believe I built the DLL correctly. But when I took the resulting .exe file and placed it on another computer and attempted to run it, it gave me the error message: "Unable to locate LabVIEW Run-Time Engine. Program requires a version 7.1 (or compatible) LabVIEW Run-Time engine. You should have already realized this, you moron."
Anyone have any idea where I went wrong or what step I might have missed? This has been a crazy, non-stop, massive brain fart of a day and I can't seem to remember what I'm missing here.
Amateur programmer for over 10 years!

Hi.
Whenever you want to use executables or .dll's created with LabVIEW you must make sure that the LabVIEW runtime engine of the SAME version as the LabVIEW version used to create the files, is installed in the target computer.
There are basically 2 ways to get the run-time engine installed on a computer:
1. (the one I prefer): Download the correct version of the LabVIEW run-time engine installer from www.ni.com/downloads, or more specifically from
http://digital.ni.com/softlib.nsf/websearch/369618104E25B08E86256F54006A4E2F?opendocument&node=132050_US
for the latest one. Once you have the installer for the run-time engine, just install it in the target computer. I prefer this option because the run-time engine is installed independently, so if you then uninstall your program, the run-time engine remains.
2. Create an installer for your program that includes the run-time engine. To include the run-time engine, when you are creating your application, go to the "installer settings" tab, click on "Advanced" and make sure there is a checkmark on "include LabVIEW run-time engine". This way when you install your program in the target computer, the run-time engine will also be installed.
Just as a note, any computer with LabVIEW on it, will also have the run-time engine.
Good luck.
Alejandro

Unable to locate the LabVIEW Run-Time engine

Using LabVIEW 2011, I have built an executable and installer including the LabVIEW Run-Time engine. I built the app on a 32-bit system. I'm deploying it to a Windows7 64-bit system. When I ran the installer, rebooted, then tried to run the app, I got an error messsage stating "Unable to locate LabVIEW Run-Time Engine", stating that the LVRTE 2011 was needed to run the app, and asking if I want to download from NI. I have tried downloading the RTE and re-installing it, but when I try, I get an error message from the installer stating that there is a newer version of the RTE already installed, and the installer exits! I have tried un-installing the application, but have had no luck removing the RTE. Now I'm stuck. The re-installed executable application says it can't find the RTE, and the RTE installer says there's a later version already installed!
I can't go forward or backwards!
Prior to running the installer for this app, I had a working LVRTE for 2011, and was running some other executable LabVIEW programs on the target box. However, since this new application had additional components not included in the original install of the RTE, I built the new installer which included the additional components. Once I ran that installer, my problems began.
In my frustration, I've tried downloading from NI both the 32 and 64-bit versions of the RTE, and installing them. I realize that the app was built on a 32-bit system, so the 32-bit RTE SHOULD have run it fine, but didn't.
At this point I have removed the 64-bit RTE using the NIUninstaller. I believe I need to completely remove all 32-bit RTE components and start over, but I have not been able to. The 32-bit RTE does not show up in any un-install utilities I've found.
What could be causing this problem, and how do I get past it??
Thank you.

One thing I did discover in my struggles is that the RunTime engine on the target box needs to be based on the environment of the development box. So if you built the app on a 32-bit machine, you would need to install the 32-bit RTE, even on your 64-bit target box.
The RTE Uninstaller might not show up in the Windows Add/Remove Programs utility. In my case the 64-bit RTE uninstaller showed up, but the 32-bit did not. The NiUninstaller (C:\Program Files\National Instruments\Shared\NIUninstaller) did list both RTEs for uninstalling, but still didn't get me past the problem.
I was finally only able to get past the problem by doing a system restore to a point in time prior to my changing of the RTE.
Good luck.
Dan

Teststand error states that a vi failed to load in the Labview Run-Time Engine

I am getting an error in teststand that states that a vi failed to load in the Labview Run-Time Engine version '14.0.1'
If I look at the software loaded on my system with the NI Measurement and Automation Explorer I have Labview Run Time engines for version 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, & 2014 on my system.
How do I get this VI to run on this system when it is called by test Stand?
Thank you

The RTE 14.0 was loaded as part of my deployment and after I ran this I got an update notice for the F1 patch which I also loaded.
I do not have labview loaded on this system, only the run time engines from running my deployment.
When I launch t he teststand sequence, when it calls the labview VI, I get the following error moessage:
Error: Failed to load VI 'C:\builds\RelayVoltageMeaure.vi' in the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine version '14.0.1'. LabVIEW: The VI is not executable. This error may occur because the VI is either broken or contains a subVI that LabVIEW cannot locate. Select File>>Open to open the VI and verify that you can run it. VI Path: C:\builds\RelayVoltageMeaure.vi[Error Code: -17600, Failed to load a required step's associated module. ]
I have attached the teststand sequence if this helps.
Thanks
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Unable to locate labview run time engine (lab view 8.5)

Hello I have a problem whit the labview 8.5 installer. I have created I project with included a .vi file (a simple panel wich control a serial port, with parameters (baud rate, stop bits, ...)), then I have created an application for this file (.exe) and then the installer (I have included the labview run time engine 8.5). When I run the setup.exe I have the following error message:
Unable to locate labview run time engine, the application require a labview run time engine 8.5 or compatible...
What I'm missing??
Thanks
Maurizio

are there one other reasons why it would not work. I have asimilar problem.
I intsalled version 8 of run time engine and acrtivated software. Now I am trying to run compiled application provided to me by third party.
When I click on application it says
Unable to locate LV run time engine
Test server requires a version 6.0 or compatible LV engine.
How do I know if the engine I installed and activated is running and is it supposed to be able to execute a program which is expectin rev 6 of the rund engine?

Include LabVIEW Run-Time Engine in C# Project Distribution

I have written a software package in Visual Studio using C# which calls a number of functions from a dll which I have built in LabVIEW. I am now trying to produce an installation program for my C# package but can't quite work out how to include the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine in this installation.
I am creating the installation program by defining a Visual Studio Deployment Project and I have added my LabVIEW dll to this. However, the dll requires the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine to also be installed on the target PC. I was hoping that there would be a set of files to implement the installation of the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine that I could include in my Visual Studio Deployment Project and do the installation of both my C# code and my LabVIEW dll (inc Engine) in one operation. Is this possible? Or do I need to produce a LabVIEW installation for my dll separately from the C# installation?
Info:
Development OS = Windows 2000
Target OS = Windows XP
C# Development Environment = Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 V8.0
LabVIEW Version = 8.5
Also, I am using the Order Analysis Toolkit and noticed that there seemed to be an 'Order Analysis Run-Time Engine' installed on my PC. Do I need this too?
Thanks for any help.
CAS

Hi CAS,
One way of automating the installation of the LabVIEW run-time engine is to use commands in a batch file (*.bat). These commands would be executed automatically at the same time as your distribution installer to install LVRT with your C# application. For more information on command line options, have a look at this KB. I don't have so much knowledge of C# distributions, though, so there may be a better way to approach this that someone else in the community could advise you on.
With regard to the order analysis toolkit, you will also need this runtime engine installed. A point to note, though, is that the toolkit requires a run-time licence to be deployed in this fashion. It is now part of the Sound and Vibration Measurement Suite and needs to be licenced accordingly.
I hope this helps!
Best regards,
Tom
Applications Engineering, NI UK

MAX giving error - Unable to locate Labview run-time engine

I have LV 7.1 and 8.5.1 installed on a WinXP pc. No problems until now.
I installed some support software for a LabJack interface, which required LV version 6.1 run-time, so I let it install that.
I now get the error whenever I run MAX:
"Unable to locate the Labview run-time engine. LVBrokerAux71 requires a version 7.1 (or compatible) Labview run-time engine...."
After closing the error boxes, MAX seems to work fine. Both versions of Labview also work. I uninstalled run-time engine 6.1 and re-installed version 8.5.1, but that made no difference. I tried to install run-time version 7.1 from the msi file but it would not let me because a later version of the run-time is installed.
What is LV Broker? Why does it not accept version 8.5.1 run-time engine? Is it possible to have 2 versions of the run-time engine installed, and if so, how?

Dear CDancer
Thank you for contacting NI. First of all, you can have as many versions of LabVIEW run time engines you want loaded on your computer without a problem. LV Broker is installed by all drivers that uses LabVIEW testpanels like DAQmx does. In your case it seems that the LV Broker installation is corrupted or has failed. This can be rectified by overwriting the files in the specified directory listed below:
C:\Program Files\National Instruments\Shared\LabVIEW Broker
Your directory should look like the screenshot I have attached; labelled LV Broker Directory View
I have attached a ZIP File that will replace the LV Broker directory. Please try replacing your files with these if different to the screenshot and let me know how you get on. Many thanks.
Many thanks for using the NI forums and I look forward to your reply.
Kind regards
David
Applications Engineer
National Instruments UK
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Error -17600 when switching from LabVIEW Development System to LabVIEW Run-Time Engine in Adapter Configuration

I receive an error message (code -17600) while loading my test sequence after switching from LabVIEW Development System (2009 f3) to LabVIEW Run-TIme Engine using the Adapter Configuration.
ErrorCode: -17600,
Failed to load a required step's associated module.
LabVIEW Run-Time Engine version 9.0.1f3.
When I switch back to the LV development system, everything is OK, and the sequence loads and runs perfectly.
My TestStand Engine Version is 2012 f1 (5.0.0.262).
I'd appreciate any help on this issue.
Roman

Hi Roman,
There are a couple of things you can try:
1) Determine if the LabVIEW RunTime Engine is corrupted in some way. Create a new simple VI with no sub-VIs, using the same LabVIEW Development system you used for mass-compiling the VIs. Create a TestStand step that calls this VI and ensure it runs correctly. Now switch your LabVIEW adapter to use the RuntimeEngine and choose the "Auto detect using VI version" option.
Check if the simple VI is loadable and runs without errors in TestStand.
If the step generates the same error, you should try a re-install of the LabVIEW development system.
If not, its most likely that there is some VI you are using that is not loadable in the LabVIEW Runtime Engine because:
1) Some sub-VI is still not saved in the right version or bitness. Open the VI heirarchy of the top-level VI that you are calling from TestStand and examine the paths of all the sub-VIs to check if they were in the folder you masscompiled and re-save any that are outside this directory.
Also, when you try to close the top level VI, do you get a prompt to save any unsaved files? If so, they could be the sub-VIs that are not saved in the right version. Save all of them.
Check if you are loading any VIs programatically and if these are compiled and saved in the right version as well.
2) There is some feature you are using in your LabVIEW code that is not supported in the LabVIEW RunTime Engine. To check this, add your top-level VI to a LabVIEW project and create a new build specification and create a new executable from this VI.
    Right-click "Build Specifications" and choose "New->Application(EXE)".
    In the Application Properties window, select Source Files and choose the top level VI as the start-up VI.
    Save the properties.
    Right-click on the newly created build specification and choose Build.
Run this executable (it will be run using the LabVIEW RunTime) and check if the VI has a broken arrow indicating that it cannot be loaded and run in the LabVIEW Runtime Engine.
You might need to examine your code and find the feature which is not supported in the LabVIEW RunTime and find an alternative.
Another thing i forgot to mention the last time around is if you are using 64-bit LabVIEW with 32-bit TestStand, then executing code using LabVIEW RTE from TestStand will not work since the 64-bit LabVIEW RTE dll cannot be loaded by the 32-bit TestStand process.
If none of the above steps resolve the issue, consider sharing your LabVIEW code so i can take a look.
Regards,
TRJ

Error on installation of LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 8.5.1: "This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way"

Hi,
a colleague in India cannot install the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine 8.5.1 on Windows XP. On attempting to install, an error box is shown, which says:
(window title)
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime library:
(message box text)
Runtime error!
Program: C:\National Instruments Downloads\LabVIEW 8.5.1\Runtime Engine\setup.exe
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=runtimeerrorvt7.jpg
I didn't find any relevant clues for this in NI forums. A search at Google brought me to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884538/en-us, offering a HotFix to solve the problem. Unfortunately, the installation of this HotFix does not solve the problem.
Do you know this behavior and do you have any ideas how the problem can be solved?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Manuel
Message Edited by Manuel Häderle on 10-07-2008 10:41 AM
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Hi there
log in as administrator and kill all processes not needed and try again. I've seen cases where one of these free download tweak applications (like "Memory Defragmentation" and stuff like that) caused that error.
Best regards
chris
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