Can Leopard Server update Tiger clients?

Can anyone tell me if Leopard server can update the OS of Tiger clients? I know Tiger server can't update Leopard clients, but the other way around?

Hi
Not true. I have a 10.4 OD Master with a managed group using the SUS Service on a 10.5 Server. The 10.5 Server is connected to the 10.4 Directory. DNS Services for both servers are on the 10.4 Server as is the DHCP Service. 10.4 and 10.5 Clients that bind to the 10.4 Server are updated using the 10.5 SUS with no problems at all. The only issue I've seen is 10.5 clients occasionally can't use the 10.5.2 Combo Update on the SUS Server. There is the 'cant expand package properly' error message. At first I thought this was because the latest Intel iMacs were able to update but not Leopard installed PPC models. One solution was to keep a manually downloaded .dmg of the 10.5.2 update on the Server and push it out using ARD or copying it locally and installing it that way. However earlier Intel models - occasionally - are also not updating - pre-dominantly first generation macbooks and macminis but every now and again some of the later Aluminium model iMacs.
This is an intermittent problem though and may be due to the small bandwidth that the SUS server is having to use to access apple's downloads server (1MB). When the SUS was on the 10.4 Server with a higher bandwidth connection (4-5MB) there was never any problems with the downloads but quite a few with the Service stopping itself and having to be restarted using the command line.
The amount downloaded for 10.5 SUS is greater (approx 13-16GB) than 10.4 SUS (approx 10-11GB) - obviously. It took 4-5 days for the 10.5 SUS to make available all the downloaded updates - obviously due to the 1MB connection but also there were problems with accessing the updates server at that time. I think this was because Leopard Server had not long been made available and like a lot others it was in a testing environment where all the services were being tried to see what was worked and what did not.
Tony

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Can Mac OS X Server do this? Sure.
You're going to be learning a whole lot about running a server, regardless.
You really need to sort out what you have here and where you want to be, and how to upgrade or replace yor migrate your environment, and before you add the substantial increase in complexity of serving Windows from Mac. If you can't get off of Office circa 2003 or similarly old software, what are you going to do when you find, say, an incompatibility, or a need to migrate mail clients? Who are you going to call for help?
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Good afternoon.
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Does anyone here have a crystal ball? I can't answer it anymore than the next person. I'd ask it in the Snow Leopard Server forum after the release date. This is a user to user forum.

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Hi
Assuming no hardware problems what you've described could be down to a network problem? Check the network settings. Starting in Safe Boot should allow this to happen without the accompanying beach ball. Check patch cables. Make sure IPv6 is switched off. Does the server have a fixed IP address? Has the setting been changed to DHCP?
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Hi
Ditto with Jeff
+"Has anyone managed to have Tiger PPC 10.4.11 accounts on Snow Leopard Server 10.6.4?"+
Yes. Lots of times. Also had 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6 clients logging in with network accounts on a 10.4 Server.
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Hi,
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Welcome to Apple Discussions!
First off, your profile says something of an incongruity, which is that there is no such thing as an Intel G5:
http://discussions.apple.com/click.jspa?searchID=10781403&messageID=6221656
Now if you said Intel and G5s in your profile I wouldn't be concerned about it, but troubleshooting the Intel and G5 Macs often can require different procedures. Migrating from G5 to Intel also often presents a problem with the Migration Assistent, unless you follow these steps, and perhaps that's where you problem resides:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=715
Secondly, since the question is regarding Mac OS X Server, I suggest posting to this forum Mac OS X Server v10.4 and earlier Print Services. Someone there is more likely to know the answer to your question than here. I'll ask a moderator move this thread to the appropriate forum.
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Hello,
how can I realize, that the server is able to quit the connection to the client?
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Tobias

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