Can placed black eps graphics be separated as spot color in ID?

I have a 400 plus page catalog that has all kinds of product images in it. Most are bitmaps or tifs that already have a spot color assigned to them. However there are several placed eps graphics that have been created in Illustrator and are black. I would like to make these black eps graphics print with the other spot items. Is there a way to mark them in ID for this, or do I have to make a spot color version of each one an re-place them?

If your graphics are all on separate layers from the text, you selectively toggle layers for print.
Alternatively, you could create a new black swatch for your text and change all the text in a few clicks (if your using paragraph styles).

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1 - yes, you can do this with Preflight in Acrobat Pro, but it's not on the default set of fixups.
Open Preflight, select "Single fixups" - the wrench icon
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Choose the Color category in the upper right
Choose 'Convert to spot color' in the upper left
Define the source parameters in the main panel (in your case, CMYK%, 0-0-0-100 with tolerance 0)
Define the spot color to change this color into, and the alternative space for rendering (i.e. your blue color)
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Hi Kon Verter,
you can change the values of your spot swatch, but you have to check many things before.
e.g. you can do something like this:
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Illustrator no longer displays the white channel of a placed DCS/.eps.

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Evidently, Illustrator is creating its own preview, rather than using the one embedded in the EPS.
Create a Multichannel file containing several spot color channels. Make the images of the various spot channels overlap each other. Select white as the color for one of the spot channels. Set each channel's Solidity at 100%. Save as DCS2 with 8-bit TIF preview.
Import the DCS2 file into Corel Draw. Select the Place As EPS option, and it displays the dithered 8-bit composite preview embedded in the EPS, and the spot white channel shows.
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1. Saved the DCS2 file as multifile.
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Just more of Adobe's "cross application integration" of these CS bundles.
JET

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