Can SQL Developer Data Modeler work with OBIEE?

Can SQL Developer Data Modeler work with OBIEE? Can we export the data model from the Data Modeler and import it into OBIEE? Or export the OBIEE metadata to the Data Modeler for Data Model defining?

no
Philip

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SQL Developer Data Modeler - integration with subversion

I just discovered the release of SQL Developer Data modeler, and found this to be very interesting.
We are still using Oracle Designer for database design, but we are looking for a replacement (for several reasons).
My question is quite simple:
Given that the modeler uses a filebased repository, and also given that we have several developers potentially working on a data-model at the same time, how does Data Modeler integrate with subversion for source control etc.?
Can the repository itself be under source control, and checked in/out directly from Data Modeler?
Or will only the output files be candidates for version/source control?
Let me admit right away that I have not read much of the data modeler docs, and I have also not downloaded/installed it (yet), but does anyone have pointers to docs on this , or general input/knowledge around it.
On a side note, I must say that it puzzles me that a company like Oracle, that delivers one of the best databases doesn't use its database engine to host the repository, but instead chooses to go for files (I assume xml) "scattered all over the place"....
Well, I guess they a have a reason for it..
Anyway:
Sql Developer Data Modeler and Subversion anyone?
Jens

Hi Jens,
It's early days and the initial implementation is indeed file based. Though I'd say not xml files "all over the place", but in ordered folders. Yes, as a database company it does make sense that we'd have a repository for managing and versioning metadata. However the tool supports Oracle and other databases and many companies use open source version control tools, such as Subversion and so anyone using the Data Modeler today can use it with Subversion regardless of the database they are designing for.
We do plan to have a repository, but in the 6+ months of the early adopter program found that many of the early adopters were happy to place the files under source code control using Subversion and in so doing also managed the multi-user development.
Integrated Subversion support is planned for a future release.
Sue

SQL Developer Data Modeling - Synchronization with database

How to synchronize changes in the relational model with an existing database (as well as JDeveloper)?
For example I added a column in a table of the relational model and then want to generate the changes against an existing database. Only a ALTER TABLE-Statement should be generated.
Thanks,
Holger

Thanks for your answer.
I tried this, but it is in comparison with Oracle JDeveloper or Oracle Designer much to complicated. I reported this in the osdm feedback application.
Furthermore the Compare Models view is no more helpful, when I use domains in the updated model. Because every column is marked as different with a exclamation mark.
Thanks,
Holger

Connection to SQL Developer Data Modeler Fails

All,
I am using Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler version 3.0.0.665 in an Oracle 10g database environment. When I try to import DDLs, I get the following error message:
NoSuchMethodError:
oracle.i18.ntext.converter.CharacterConverterOGS.getInstance(I)Loracle/i18n/text/converter/CharacterConverter;I use the same connection profile in Oracle SQL Developer version 1.5.0.53, and my connection works fine there, but the same credentials in SQL Developer Data Modeler fails with the above error message. Any thoughts what causes this connection problem?
Thank you,
Seyed

Hi Philip,
Thank you so much for the information. Your suggested solution resolved my problem. For some reason when I first installed the Data Modeler, it worked fine and I was able to save the result into PDF files. Then my connection went bad and I posted this question on this forum.
Again thank you very much,
Seyed

Can SQL Dev Data Modeler be used to reverse engineer Windchill PDMLink

Does anyone know if SQL Developer Data Modeler be used to reverse engineer Windchill PDMLink Oracle database? I need to get the DDL and ERDs from Windchill PDMLink.
Can SQL Developer Data Modeler be used to reverse engineer object oriented Oracle databases?

SQL Developer Data Modeler be used to reverse engineer Windchill PDMLink Oracle databaseprobably you mean Windchill PDMLink tables in Oracle database - yes, it's possible to get the structure of tables.
Can SQL Developer Data Modeler be used to reverse engineer object oriented Oracle databases?It's not clear for me - you can reverse engineer definition of object and collection types, definitions of tables and views including those that use object and collection types in their definition.
You can try it.
Philip

How can I find out what is causing this error in SQL Developer Data Modeler

Friends,
I am trying to import entities into into SQL Developer Data Modeler from Oracle Designer 10.1.2.3.
In case of need I perform these steps to perform the import:
File --> Import --> Oracle Designer Model --> Select database connection --> Select work area --> select application system --> select one entity --> Click finish --> Import starts
During the import process I see an alert dialog box with the message:
There are errors in import - check Log file Clicking Ok dismisses the alert box and I see the following summary screen:
Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler Version: 2.0.0 Build: 584
Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler Import Log
Date and Time: 2010-08-09 14:27:26
Design Name: erdtest
RDBMS: Oracle Database 10g
          All Statements:           32
          Imported Statements:      32
          Failed Statements:           0
          Not Recognized Statements:      0The Entity is then displayed in the Logical View within SQL Developer Data Modeler.
Upon checking the log file I see the following entry:
2010-08-09 13:50:34,025 [Thread-11] ERROR ODExtractionHandler - Error during import from Designer Repository
java.lang.NullPointerException
     at oracle.dbtools.crest.imports.oracledesigner.logical.ODORelation.createArcs(Unknown Source)
     at oracle.dbtools.crest.imports.oracledesigner.logical.ODORelation.generate(Unknown Source)
     at oracle.dbtools.crest.imports.oracledesigner.ODExtractionHandler.generateDesign(Unknown Source)
     at oracle.dbtools.crest.imports.oracledesigner.ODExtractionController$Runner.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)Can anyone shed any light on this error?
Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide.

No this helps a lot. It's not strange. Firstly, in a versioned repository you should see Private Workareas and Shared workareas, so your workarea may be in either of these. It won't be in the Global Shared Workarea, as this only for non-versioned repositories. (I like to open the RON by selecting the full Repository, that way I can see the private and shared worlareas and the configuration and containers all in the same tree.
Now your workarea is defined by a set of rules, so when you expand the workarea in the RON, and select the object, then that's the workarea and object you'll see in the import dialog in the Data Modeler. So if you check it out and check it back in, and can't see it in the RON, then the rule is not seeing this object. (Did you refresh the workarea in the RON?) If you can't see it in the RON, you can't see it in the Data Modeler. If you're working in a versioned repository, you need to work in the specific work area, i.e V27 and this is what you need to select in the Data Modeler.
It looks like you are selecting the wrong workarea in the Data Modeler.
Sue

SQL Developer Data Modeler with TFS?

I'm looking for a way to hook up Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler to Team Foundation Server for version/source control. We currently run TFS for all source control repositories and want to avoid installing subversion just for the Data Modeler product.
Any suggestions would be great

Unfortunately TFS isn't currently supported natively in the tool, although maybe someone else who has manually set it up for manage models will have some advice for you.

SQL Developer Data Modeler scripting

Hi,
I'm looking for a new modeling software for my company. SQL Developer Data Modeler (SDDM) has many features that fit my requirements. But there are some things that I'm not sure can be done. I work mostly with Oracle databases but still need to support some legacy and non-sql databases. Please look at problems below and tell me if and how those things can be achieved. Any suggestions for alternative solutions are welcome too.
1) I need to be able process Database Model from command line without human intervention and starting any GUI applications, for example generate DDL script form the model. Does SDDM have any interface for that?
2) I want to be able to export Database Model into a file in a custom (legacy) format.
3) SDDM stores database description in xml files. Is xml format defined anywhere? Are xsd schema files availabe?
4) Is there a SDK available that would allow reading SDDM Database Model into a custom application for further processing?
5) Is there any Java library available that parses Oracle-11-compatible SQL and PL/SQL?
Thank you in advance
Tomasz Grygo

Hi Kevin,
thanks for sharing your thoughts. There will be much more advanced find/search facilities in next version of Data Modeler and scripts also will be covered.
Philip

SQL Developer Data Modeler: Logical model, unable to create arc

I have a logical model in SQL Developer Data Modeler. Entity A has two 'incoming' foreign key relations to entities B and C. Both releations have the same optionality and cardinality. I want to place both relations in an arc. I see the buttons in my toolbar menu, but they are not enabled. Even when I select both relations it is not.
Bringing the logical model to the relational model creates foreign keys. These foreign keys can be selected and when I do that the 'Create new arc' button in the relational model toolbar is enabled.
What am I missing in the logical model ...? The documentation doesn't give a clue.
Erik

Thanks Sue, that worked. It is different from the way the ERD in Designer worked. Is there any reasoning behind it. As far as I know you should only put into an arc two or more relationships pointing to the same entity with the same optionality and the same cardinality. Selecting the entity with the relationships can only help in identifying at which relationship end the arc should be created but that is obvious.
And asking the question is answering it: it will help in adding an arc to two or more entities originating and ending at the same entity (and same cardinality and optionality).
Is that the reasoning behind it?
Regards
Erik

Domains usage in SQL Developer data MODELER

Hi,
I'm trying to understand how to use Domains in Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler. We use version 3.1.3 . before I used Toad Modeler where domains are just part of your main design.
Oracle data modeler has some different concept.
let's assume I'm working on 2 designs: DesignA and DesignB that include relational models.
DesignA and Design B should use domains but list of domains in design A is very different than in design B.
Default domain file is located on c: drive where SqlModeler is installed. It is obviously unacceptable , so I need to change Default System Type directory in preferences.
And of course I want to have different domain directories for DESIGN A and DESIGN B.
So when I open design A then I changed Default System Type directory let's say to x:\AAA. Then i close design A and open Design B and change Default System Type directory to x:\BBB
I checked folders AAA and BBB and they have necessary XML files there: defaultdomains.xml, defaultRFDBSSites and so on....
Now questions:
can I rename defaultdomains.xls to something else like AAAdomains.xls? Domain administration can edit any domain file with any name , but how can I associate certain domain file with my design? My wish , when I open my design , then corresponding domain file will be open automatically. Is it possible?
If I open 2 designs in Sql Modeler and switch between designs then corresponding domain files should be changed automatically as well. Currently I shouldn't forget to change default System Type directory every time when I switch models. Is it the only way to handle it?
Thanks
vitaliy

Hi Vitaliy,
We use version 3.1.3
I recommend always to use the latest version. If you don't want to use beta (DM 4.0 EA is out) you can use DM 3.3.
Otherwise Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler supports two types of domains:
1) DM installation domains - those in file defaultdomains.xml
2) Design level domains - they are stored in design directories and are visible to particular design only. They can be created in following ways:
2.1 Manually - there is a property "Domains file" and you id it's not set "defaultdomains" domain will become design level domain and will be stored in file with provided name (without .xml extension)
You can change later the file for design level domains, however you cannot change file for domain already in defaultdomains.xml.
2.2 Using types to domains wizard you can generate design level domains
2.3 Design level domains are created during import of DDL files (controlled in preferences)
2.4 You can import domains from specific file with domains using "File>Import>Domains" - you need to rename the source file if it's named defaultdomains.xml otherwise you'll get domains as installation domains
If the list with domains is too long you can define a list with preferred domains (or/and logical types) in "Preferences>Data Modeler>Model" and you can use shorter list in Table/Entity dialog if check "Preferred" check box next to "Type:" combo box.
If I open 2 designs in Sql Modeler and switch between designs then corresponding domain files should be changed automatically as well
If you open 2 designs in one instance of DM they will use the same file with default domains i.e. you'll lose domains in one of design depending of setting for "system data type directory". You need to go with design level domains.
Philip

Does SQL Developer Data Modeler fit-in??

Hi Everyone,
Wish you happy new year 2011.
Does SQL Developer Data Modeler support conceptual, logical and physical in our modeling or only logical and physical?
We all use Erwin for modeling. Erwin works without database repository storing models in desktop folders and provide additional reporting. I find some place SQL Developer Data Modeler talked about repository need.
Does SQL Developer Data Modeler store the models in local/network folders instead of Database server?
What are the functions need database based repository to work with SQL Developer Data Modeler?
We are thinking of using SQL Developer Data Modeler for our conceptual, Logical, and data dictionary need. Will it help in our need?
Do we need to face any surprises on using SQL Developer Data Modeler for our need?
Thanks in sharing your experience and helping me out.
RI

1) Do we need to have Oracle database at back end to work with SQL Developer Data Modeler?No, Data Modeler use Oracle database only if you create reporting repository.
Data Modeler is free, you need database license only if you want to log service request
2) Will SQL Developer Data Modeler create any tables (as backend repository ) in Oracle database to store Model details? no
3) Do we need to create reporting schema in backend oracle database to generate reports of SQL Developer Data Modeler's items such as Entity/attributes etc?no, reports can be created out of current loaded design. However having reporting repository will give you additional benefits - history (reports can be generated for every snapshot of your designs there) and multi-user usage, you can create your own reports
4) Do we to use SQL Developer Data Modeler reverse engineer from DB2, SqlServer, Terra data etc?Data Modeler has full support for Oracle, DB2/390, DB2/UDB(LUW) and MS SQL Server. Reverse engineering from other databases (including Terra Data) is at generic JDBC level - you'll get some and some will be missing (no check constraints for example).
You can read release notes http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/datamodeler/ea2-releasenotes-185793.html
Philip

Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler start up error

Hi All,
I just downloaded Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler (2.0.0.57.0) [Released 1 July 2009] by selecting the option "Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler for Windows (This zip file includes the JRE)"
After I installed the same and tried to run it by clicking datamodeler.exe, I get the following error message
"unable to create an instance of the Java virtual machine located at path:..\jdk\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll"
On the same machine I can successfuly run the Oracle SQL Develper with no errors. My machine is having Windows XP Professional SP3.
Any ideas? If there was a problem with Java, than the Oracle SQL Developer should also not run. But as stated it runs with out any error but the Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler gives the above error.
Regards,
JAA149

1 - The above problem has nothing to do with the memmory. I tried on a 400 MB RAM, 900 MB RAM, 1.5 MB RAM & 2 MB RAM with the same arror.
"unable to create an instance of the Java virtual machine located at path:..\jdk\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll"
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2 - There are two "datamodeler.exe: files
One is at D:\datamodeler\datamodeler.exe
2nd is at D:\datamodeler\bin\datamodeler.exe
The same error occurs with both the files.
3 - The Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler version is "Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler (2.0.0.57.0) [Released 1 July 2009]" and the file I downloaded is "Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler for Windows (This zip file includes the JRE) - (57M)"
If I look in "D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\README.txt" I find
"Java(TM) Platform, Standard Edition Runtime Environment Version 6"
If I run "D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\javacpl.exe" I get
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If I run "D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\jureg.exe" I get
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If i check at the control panle add/remove program
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If I go to "http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp" and download "jre-6u16-windows-i586-s.exe" and run it.
If I go to "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6" I find the same files as in "D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre"
I am able to run Oracle SQL Developer with out any kind of error let alone the above one. But with Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler I get the above mentioned error no matter what I try.
As the error states "unable to create an instance of the Java virtual machine located at path:..\jdk\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll". The file "jvm.dll" is located at two places. One at "D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll" and the second at "D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll"
A similiar problem occurs with JDeveloper with the fllowing solution
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=506339&start=0&tstart=0
Which states the following
"hello!
in the problem with JDeveloper i have a solution. The jdk have a file jvm.dll in the path: jdk/jre/bin/client/jvm.dll this is the problem ... now in the path:jdk/jre/bin/client/ojvm has a file with the same name if you copy and paste this file to the another path, now its works fine your Jdeveloper.
Jdeveloper use two files to jvm.dll to work one in the folder /client and other in /server copy the same file to the two locations for precaution
for me work fine thanks..."
I tried to do the same (Copy from client folder to server folder)
D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll
COPIED THIS FILE TO
D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll
Nada. So I reversed it (copied from server folder to client folder)
D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll
COPIED THIS FILE TO
D:\datamodeler\jdk\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll
Does not work. So I tried another solution stated at the same forum entry
"Well,
i solved the problem by this way :
<SQLDEVELOPER>/jdev/bin/ide.conf
In this file, change this line :
AddVMOption -Xmx512M
by
AddVMOption -Xmx256M
Now, the executable is lauching correctly. No more errors with Java Virtual Machine.
But is it a good thing to solve it like that ?"
But the ide.conf file is only at "D:\sqldeveloper\ide\bin\ide.conf" which is for the SQL Developer and not the SQl Developer Data Modeler
Correct me if I am wrong but
JRE = Java Run Time Envoirment
JDK = Java Development Kit
And Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler needs JRE and not JDK. In any case I download JDK
jdk-6u14-javafx-1_2-windows-i586.exe (121,306 KB) and installed it but no succcess.
I tried every thing except completely re-install my whole PC.
Any help will be much appreciated.
Cordially,
Jawad

New To SQL Developer Data Modeler - Data Dictionary Report

I am new to Data Modeler and I am currently learning what I can do and can't with it. Is there a way to generate a "Data Dictionary" report? We would like a report we can distribute that describes all tables and columns with descriptions and comments. We used to use an old version of Power Designer and we could do this from the data model we created. Is it possible to do something like this from SQL Developer Datas Modeler?

Hi,
Saxon is just an option, you don't need it by default.
Could be permissions problem. What are you working on i.e. OS? What java version do you use?
Even though you have specified directory for the reports do you have permissions to write there?
Report generation directories priority is:
1. Custom directory if specified in Settings->Data Modeler->Default Reports Directory
2. /datamodeler/reports/
3. User home directory
You must have permissions somewhere on these directories. On the other hand you are saying that report_data.xml is generated so you have permissions.
Okay. Now I saw a bug in 710. When you click "Generate report" there are progress dialogs and result dialog, but if you meanwhile click somewhere or change focus, these dialogs are hiding below main "Reports" dialog i.e. you are not seeing them. If you use Alt+Tab the result dialog will popup. This bug is fixed in the next release.
So you must see either result dialog or error dialog at the end of report generation. If not check with Alt+Tab if it is not hidden somewhere below and if there is no such dialog close the DataModeler and check the log file for some error.
There is SQL Developer Data Modeler 3.3 Early Adopter Available.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/datamodeler/downloads/datamodeler-33-ea-1869055.html
Above issue is fixed there and report is opening automatically.
Edited by: Dimitar Slavov on Nov 29, 2012 11:53 PM

SQL Developer Data Modeling pricing

I just downloaded the EA version of SQL Developer Data Modeling. I read in the release notes that the production release won't be free - any idea about the pricing ?
Matthias

Once the pricing for SQL Developer Data Modeling has been confirmed, we will release the full licensing detail. This will not affect the SQL Developer licensing that exists today. We plan to release SQL Developer Data Modeling as a stand alone product and then as an extension to SQL Developer, for those who want to work in an integrated environment. You can download the second early adopter release of SQL Developer Data Modeling and test and use the product. Once we have a production release, we will not answer queries on the early adopter releases and the feedback application we are currently offering for this will be shut down. As such you can continue to work with the early adopter release, but it is incomplete and would be unsupported.
Sue

Oracle sql developer Data Modeler -er diagram

Hi
I tried to Oracle sql developer data modeler for show relational ER diagrams.
Tables are came on data modeler but not shown relations between tables.
like this
How can show relations between tables?
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SDDM cannot create an ER diagram with only simple table definitions. It requires that primary keys (PKs) and foreign keys (FKs) be defined first. My guess is you imported these table designs from an existing database. If so, that database does not contain those constraints. (I have found this to be an issue in many organizations over the last 20 years - including my current job). You will have to determine:
1. The PKs for each table (either via data profiling or talk to someone who "knows" what they are supposed to be, or by reading application logic/code used to manage the tables).
2. The FKs between the tables. You may be able to guess some of that based on column names, otherwise you will have to figure them out (same as above)
Then you can update the model in SDDM with the PK definiions (manually). You must do that first before you draw in the FKs between the tables. Now if you want a true Entity Relationship model you need create a logical model from this relational model. The SDDM utility for that will convert the tables to entities and the FKs to relationships.
I have the basic steps with screen shots outlined in a presentation I gave in Denver in late 2009. It was an earlier version of SDDM but the basics are the same. You can find the presentation is here: http://www.rmoug.org/QEW2009/SQL%20Developer%20Data%20Modeler%20(2).pdf. Start at about slide 12.
HTH
(FYI - I no longer work at that company so the contact information not correct anymore).
Edited by: Kent Graziano on Apr 25, 2011 1:13 PM
Edited by: Kent Graziano on Apr 25, 2011 1:14 PM

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