Can't apply fills to grouped items

Just switched to MX from 10. Applying fills or strokes to
grouped items was very simple in 10 - now when I try to recolour
groups of objects (or text converted to paths) I'm being
continually frustrated. I add a fill to a group of objects and they
don't change colour, so I have to ungroup them to apply the fill.
Why oh why is it so?

Nang-a-nator wrote:
> Double click contents. This
> will expand to tell you how many objects are in the
group. if all objects have
> the same fill and stroke properties this will be
displayed here.
This is good advice, but requires one more step. Uncheck
Preferences>Object>'Changing object changes defaults'.
For some reason, this
preference interferes with the display of attributes of
groups of identical
objects. This is another FHMX pain if you're used to working
with this
preference enabled.
Here's how I super- and sub-select on a Mac/English keyboard.
Modify keyboard shortcuts to
Subselect: F1.
Superselect: tilde key (`) is already hard-coded into FH.
These two keys are close together on the keyboard, so
alternating between
them allows you to dive down or swim up to group level.
If, for example, you have a line of text converted to paths,
with pointer
too, option-click to subselect one path, then hit Tilde to
superselect to
group level, then hit F1 to subselect. You should now see the
fill and
stroke attributes in the object inspector. Change them there.
Judy Arndt

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