Can\'t boot without clearing cmos (kt3 ultra2)

Hi,
My kt3 ultra2 board won't boot up unless I clear the CMOS. I am using the following basic configuration:
Athlon 1800+ w/ alpha pal8045 heatsink
256 mb of samsung pc2700 ram
Radeon 8500LE graphics card
My psu is a 400W powmax. Here are the specs from the side of the unit:
3.3V 28A
5V 30A
12V 25A
my cpu temp peaks at 40C and the cmos battery is at 3.39V.
I am running at default settings w/ cpu fsb=100. Everytime I power up the computer (from cold start) I need to clear the CMOS. Otherwise, the D-Link lights hang on memory detection test.
Doing a soft reboot (ctrl - alt - del) once it starts up does not cause it to hang.
Either way once the thing boots it says:
CMOS/GPNV Checksum Bad
(does any one know if this could be why it's scewing up)
What could be causing this problem? Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you

I bought one of these boards about 2 weeks ago and have had terrible problems with my geforce 4 concerning exactly the same issue. Now from the support forums i have been reading, everyone seems to say different things. Either change your ram, power supply, graphics card (how would you feel if someone told you to change your geforce 4 ti4600 that you paid £300 for?)
Now lets face it, motherboards shouldn't have to be picky about components should they? Power supplies are "power supplies" at the end of the day, and yes sometimes there are good and bad makes and models, but it shouldn't stop someone from using a regular bog standard power supply. My thoughts and concerns about the KT3 Ultra 2 is that the motherboard manufacturer is in the wrong here and do not seem to be doing anything about it.
I've worked with PC's for about 4-5 years and have used many makes and models of motherboard and been able to get them working successfully every time, however the MSI KT3 Ultra 2 board is plagued with problems and it's about time someone did something about it. How would you feel if i sold you a car that would only go 10 miles and then stop working?
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