Can't defrag SATA drives

I just tried to run the Win98 defrag utility on two SATA drives. It quit with
a message something like: Not enough memory is available.
Has anyone else been successful at defragmenting an SATA drive? Maybe
using a third party application is the way to go...

Thanks for all the replies. I'll check out Diskkeeper and Perfect Disk 6.0.
One drive has about 210 GB of 250 in use, the other is relatively empty.
AMD 64 3000+
1 GB Corsair XMS PC3100 Twin
Gainward FX5200 256MB DDR
(2) 250 GB Maxtor SATA
40 GB Maxtor ATA133
80 GB Maxtor ATA133
NEC PCI USB
Windows 98 FE

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On start up, the computer runs through the BIOS sequence onscreen and then stops somewhere between the end of that and the Windows blue screen coming up, leaving a blank screen except a flashing cursor on the left. When I disconnect the two IDE drives as a test, the same thing happens. Then, with them still disconnected, I try booting from the XP CD and it gets to the point of checking the computer's current configuration and then the screen goes blank indefinitely. I would think it would either show the XP setup menu or give a message that's something is missing.
Does this sound like BIOS or Windows or ? Is there anything else in BIOS that needs changing? I've been told that IDE drive jumpers have no effect on SATA drives. Is that true? Thanks.
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Athlon 64 3000
2GB RAM
XP/SP2 current

Quote from: genegold on 29-January-08, 01:31:18
Good timing. I'd like to add partitions to my new (cloned) SATA boot drive (C:), but wanted to back up first. A problem and a question come up. First, when I remount the old IDE drive as a second drive D:, even wiped clean, problems ensue. Comodo wants to look for my firewall installation on D: and Acronis won't allow me to clone back, i.e., clone from the new drive to the old.
It's not really clear what you had before or what you have now in terms of HDDs: you had two IDE drives, C: & D: and one SATA as E:??; now you have a SATA boot drive. Do you still have the 40GB IDE drive? Did the clone over to the SATA automatically extend the old 160GB C: partition to 750GB? Sorry but I've no idea how Acronis works. "Wiped clean" is kinda vague - it could mean using the HDD mfr's utility to write zeroes to the entire surface... or just creating a new Extended partition containing a formatted(?) logical volume. If that old IDE drive has a Primary partition it could still be marked as bootable, which you can check with BootitNG... and it's not a good idea to have a Primary partition on a 2nd drive.
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Second, I assume that files are spread over the boot drive, not just grouped in the first 150GB, even if defragged. In reducing the partition size - now 698GB - how does BootitNG know to make sure everything ends up in the first partition? I read about this somewhere but don't see any mention in BootITNG.
Again, I don't know how you got to the situation of a 698GB partition on the SATA boot drive - it would have been better to clone to the same sized C: partition as the old 160GB drive and then use a tool like BootitNG to extend it to whatever size you want... then add new partitions.
No partition management software can guarantee a partition shrink will work - they can only shrink out unallocated space. In that respect Windows XP Defrag is unreliable at both leaving unallocated space at the end of a partition AND at accurately reporting what is used and what is not. In such a situation, without a better, more accurate, defragger I generally run defrag several times, with reboots in between until it "looks" like it's safe to shrink and do the shrink in steps, with checks and defrags again, in between. Yes, it's a PITA.

K8T NEO (MS-6702 VT8237) can't find SATA drive

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Hi!
Have a look at the connector you used. If you have the full K8T Neo, you have two SATA controllers. One VIA and one Promise. You then have 4 SATA ports on the board. you need to use the ones closest to your RAM, so, the upper ones.
Did you buy a SATA or SATA-II disk? In case it's SATA-II, check the SATA/SATA-II jumper on the drive and set it to SATA-I. Your board does NOT support SATA-II.
when you checked this, please verify in BIOS that you actually did enable the VIA V8237 SATA controller. When you did, boot further untill the POST screen disappears. Now, you see a VIA SATA BIOS screen. It should list your Seagate now.

U410 ultrabook: Can I defrag hard drive with SSD cache?

Hi,
I would like to know if I can defrag my hard drive with 24G SSD cache. I heard that it would be bad to defrag the SSD part so I would like to defrag the regular hard drive portion only (1TB). I right clicked the drive but I see four drives and can't tell which one I should defrag. It looks like the first c drive is the one, but I am not sure. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks.

You are right that by default, drives are set to be defragged automatically. But you can also do it manually and when the date of the task is not yet due.
Re ssd, are there permanent files in that drive? By permanent, I mean data, programs, etc.. Not the temporary files used by runned programs and the system using the caching process.

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You're very welcome.
I wish I had an answer for you but I am not sure on this one.
Normally when you get those install a device driver notes when installing W7 or Vista, it is due to when someone buys the software online from the microsoft store, downloads the OS installation file, burns it to a DVD and the burn is bad.
This is not the case (at least as far as I know), when one uses an installation disk that came out of a Microsoft retail box full or upgrade version or OEM version.
So, if by chance you are trying to install W7 using a disk you burned yourself, try burning the ISO file to another DVD, and burn it at the slowest possible speed you can burn it at.
Additionally, go into the BIOS and run the HDD test. From what you have posted, I don't think the HDD is bad.
Windows 7 does not need any additional files to install on your model PC. That, I guarantee.
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How can I defragment hard drive on ibook?

I'd like to defragment the hard drive on my ibook. How can I do that?

Okay, Rod and Barry. I've read both of your posts half a dozen times, and all I am is confused. You guys are too smart for our own good.
Most folks here don't have a lot of huge files they are dealing with. The automatic optimization will work for most.
While I believe a bootable clone would be a desirable backup, a lot of people here don't have a method to achieve that (i.e., an external drive or second computer with a large enough drive to accommodate such a backup).
I make do with backing up my home folder to my eMac's hard drive now and then (not as often as I should) and am longing for an external hard drive to learn how to do a bootable clone as backup. Many people here don't even have a means to backup their Home Folder.
What do you advise to them? Certainly, if you are working with PhotoShop or other large files, you need an external hard drive, and probably (almost assuredly) have one. But most people posting here use their iBooks the way your wife uses hers, Barry, without the luxury of having you to do regular maintenance on it.
Guys, keep your audience in mind here, please. What do you advise we masses do in the way of maintenance? (I have been using my iBook since January of 2004, and have done nothing more sophisticated to the hard drive than repairing the hard drive, repairing permissions, using DiskWarrior two or three times to rebuild the directory--when necessary, i.e., glitchy, and an Archive and Install in July of 2004 when DiskWarrior wouldn't do its trick.)
It is quite possible that our original poster may be experiencing a slowdown and would benefit from the advice to simply repair the hard drive and permissions.
Brainbush, try booting into Safe Mode. This will take awhile longer than a normal startup because it does a file check and repair of the hard disk.
You will see your normal desktop. Once completely started up, restart normally, and go to Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility and repair permissions on the hard drive.
See if a little hard drive maintenance helps things out.

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Hi Remus
The link doesn't connect me to a usable page :-(
I don't have any problem with that link (in any browser).
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Problem adding SATA drive

Hi all
First time poster, long time lurker.
Hoping someone here can shed a bit of light on an unusual problem I am having.
Before I outline the problem I will say that my system is running beautifully, I've not got any problems with it in its current configuration, in fact it is the most stable set up I've owned so far. I am a happy MSI owner.
If I can get this issue sorted I'll be an extremely happy MSI owner. Now to the actual problem...
I have a pair of 36GB SCSI160 drives that I use for my system and apps drives and a 120GB ATA drive that I use for storage.
I've purchased a 120GB Seagate Barracuda SATA drive to add to my system as I've just about run out of space on the 120GB ATA drive, my storage drive.
I installed the new drive, set it up as a single Raid 0 volume using the SATA boot utility and checked it all under DOS, tested all OK.
The problem happens once I've booted into windows and enter my username and password.
I get a BSOD, IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL STOP 0x000000D1 Error which then does a memory dump, do a reboot and same thing.
Remove the SATA drive and system boots and works flawlessly, I'm typing this on it right now!
I can have the SATA drive connected to the system and NOT have a volume on it and the system works fine, naturally WINXP doesn't see the drive but it doesn't interfer with the operations at all. As soon as I put a volume on the drive... bam, BSOD next time I try to login after I boot up WinXP.
This indicates to me that the issue is a driver problem... I've tried the latest and still the same situation.
Any suggestions folks?

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Originally posted by Wonkanoby
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=49947&sid=&hilight=scsi
things like this are all over the board though yours does not sound totally the same
Thanks for the link.
Very informative. Appears that there isn't an option for me at this time other than NOT using one or the other... I can have SCSI card and no onboard SATA OR I can have onboard SATA and no SCSI card.
Seems to me a BIOS revision is needed as it appears that this is not an uncommon scenario.
Thank you for your time Wonkanoby.

Install sata drive

have a 865pe neo2 and would like to install an sata drive and copy xp from current hard drive to sata drive. can I just install sata drive to sata controller? what to do?
Thanks
JOHN

Quote from: NovJoe on 12-August-07, 11:39:50
Yes, you can install a SATA drive in but you must do the following settings:
ATA On Chip Config: Native
ATA Mode: SATA Only
PATA Keep Enabled: Yes
PATA Channel Selection: No
Set SATA as RAID: No
The rest at defaults.
Next, you can't copy and paste windows from drive to drive as there'll be alot of i386 and winnt/system32 files being locked, thus unable to be copied over.
not looking to copy &paste but will use software that comes with sata drive or some other program to copy win xp to sata drive. will that work?

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Description: Boot from a Linux installation CD rom, it recognizes and formats the SATA drives. On reboot, it doesn't try to boot from the SATA drive, it tries the CDRom and DHCP boot (and fails).
I installed a 20GByte IDE drive, installed, and booted, and added an option to Linux's GRUB loader to try to boot from the SATA drive. it boots from the IDE drive, brings up the GRUB menu, and I choose the SATA menu item, and it fails with a "drive not found" error. (This is before the OS is installed, so it's not an OS driver problem).
The BIOS is 26570NMS v11.4 081604 13:38:12.
I have Serial ATA enabled, and SATA Spread Spectrum enabled in the BIOS.
If I choose "Hard Disk Boot Priority" in the BIOS, it gives the single option "Bootable add-in cards". If I do this with the IDE drive installed and enabled, then I also get a "C1.0 M. WDC WD200..." option. But I don't see any options for the SATA drives (there are two).
Any ideas? If you need more info, let me know. There's also an Intel Etherpro 100 network card installed.
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Thanks. I tried the discWizard, it couldn't find the SATA drives! (yes, they are seagate )
I'm pretty sure this is a BIOS issue and not a linux issue, since:
1) The DiscWizard couldn't see the drives.
2) The BIOS reports the IDE hard drive is there when it finds it, but never says anything about the SATA drives.
3) Once linux is booted (off the IDE drive) it can see the SATA drives fine.
4) (forgot this one). The BIOS hard disk boot menu mentions the IDE drive by name, but not the SATA drives.
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j

K8N Neo 2 Platinum: having problems formatting NEW SEAGATE 200 GB SATA Drive.

Ok..
I can see the SATA drive during Windows Installation and in Windows XP... but I can't format it.
It freezes up at 20% when I do quick format.. and when I did a normal format it Windows gave me a error saying something about drive may be damage or installed wrong..
Right now I'm running IDE0 Master (Western Digital 200 GB HD) IDE1 Master (Toshiba DVDROM), then the Seagate drive in SATA0.
I see the drive in bios, windows, and windows install...
I've disconnecting my ide drive completly & disabled ide in bios... still won't format properly
i've also tried the f6 and loaded the 'nforce 3 SATA RAID Driver' disc that came with the motherboard and it still froze..
right now i am on my normal bootup (ide wd hd), windows xp detects the hard drive in windows.. i see it in disk management.. i can delete/make partitions.. but i just can't format it.. gaaaaaaah
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Originally posted by cfeedback
In years past I was able to install XP w/o a SP on a large drive without any problems. The process I believe I had to take was use the manufacturer's utility to format (in this case MaxBlast from Maxtor) the drive, install Windows, immediately install SP1, and then enable 48-bit LBA via the utility (you can find a .reg file that will enable it as well). While I wouldn't recommend it I never had any problems.
Ah, you just got lucky that Windows didn't try to write something past the 137 GB point. I've always known about this, but coincidentally, this just happened to me the other day where Windows told me I had a 200 GB (186 GB really) installed and ready to go, but then a few days later I kept getting a ton of "Write Delayed" errors. I was so distracted at the time (with other issues), that it didn't occur to me what the problem was, and I ended up losing a lot of data.
Anyway, for anyone really interested in the full scoop, you can read about here in Microsoft's knowlege base.

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I have two HDs in my 865PE Neo2 FIS2R system. I have the S.M.A.R.T. drive monitoring enabled in the BIOS.
One HD is an IDE (parallel) drive and the other is a SATA drive connected to the serial port on the MB.
At bootup the IDE drive reports the S.M.A.R.T. status but the SATA drive does not.
Is there any way I can get the SATA drive to report?
The SATA drive is my system drive if that makes any difference.
TIA, Rich

Quote from: Maesus on 03-January-07, 10:27:19
Rich, as long as your SATA drive plugs to the SATA Port that belongs to ICH, you will get the SMART status displayed by the utilities as suggested above. But if you put the SATA drive on a 3rd party controller, ie the Promise RAID controller, you won't be able to access to the SMART status.
ps: to be honest, SMART is not that smart to tell you that your HDD has turned bad... your HDD would just fail to be detected, before the BIOS able to warn you via the SMART status...
Not always true, I've had SMART warn me a couple of times that a drive was about to fail - i backup the data - and the drive DID fail soon after ...
Offcourse it won't be able to detect all failures in time - But every bit helps

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First, you do not have an iMac G5. G5s are PPC machines, but yours is an Intel model.
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