Can't delete old backup - says it is in use

I just replaced my iPhone 4 with a 6 (yay!).  I loaded the 4 iCloud backup onto the 6 (two days ago) and now the 6 is backing up as a separate phone backup on iCloud.  I want to delete the old backup.  However, when I try to delete the old 4 backup it says that it is currently in use restoring a phone and can't be deleted. 
any ideas why it would still be "in use" even though my old 4 is powered off and my new 6 is running on it's own backup now? 

Hi Aaron,
Please wait for up to 72 hours and then try to delete the old backup again.
With kind regards,
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