Can't force patch changes of an AU

I setup a patch that uses the AAS Lounge Lizard. However, I was unable to get the Lounge Lizard to change to the patch number specified in the MainStage patch setting.
Anyone seen this?

Yes, physical modeling synths shouldn't be a problem. Technically there's no reason that various sampler audio units (such as NI kontakt) can't share sample files between different instances of their audio units (hopefully companies will update their audio units to fix this). This affects all audio unit host programs, except that the multiple audio unit instance usage pattern is not as common in DAWs.
The EXS24 does share sample files between different plugin instances. The advantage of having multiple individual plugin instances is that each of the plugin parameters is stored and controlled separately, so you can have one set of plugin settings, hold down sustain while changing patches, and still have the old sound continue to play until you lift the sustain pedal (or release the help down keys). If plugin instances were shared, then all of the parameters would be changed as soon as you changed patches, resulting in audio blips and such.

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