Can't get itunes to sync with ipod touch or even recognize it is connected

We cannot get a ipod touch or iphone 3g to sync with itunes. We have a ipod nano that synced fine. They are charging, but itunes does not recognize them at all.
Looking for places to start.
Thanks

Ok, ran updates, found 3 new updates and after this was done all was well again. Still not sure why it only affected the touch and iphone, but guess i don't need to LOL.

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