Can't Install Tiger on External HD

I'm simply wanting to erase and install on 2 FW drives. They're good with Oxford and all. I have Panther, but want to do a fresh install. When I try and install from disk, the computer starts to restart and then freezes. I can never get to a point to even choose the drive. Now that I think of it, this is the first time doing this with Tiger. In panther, there wasn't even a restart, you could pick the drive right away. Any help is appreciated

First, do the FWHDs show up on the Desktop? If so, did you erase and format them? If I understand correctly, your machine is running 10.4.3 and you're trying to install Tiger on the FWHDs that currently have Panther installed on them, but the install disk can't see them, Can you boot with either FWHD?

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