Can't set up RAID0 on SATA ports 1&2 or 3&4???

I have two 80gig Maxtor's which I want to use in Raid0. I have tried connecting them to ports 1&2 or 3&4 but windows xp installation doesn't like it, even after pressing F6 and installing the raid drivers of the floppy, it gets so far then displays this message:
"Setup either detected multiple disks in your machine that are indistinguishable or detected raw disk(s) Setup has corrected the problem but a reboot is required"
I have. however, been able to setup Raid0 using ports 1 & 3. Is this normal? The two maxtors have jumpers on them, but I can't find any information about what jumper settings I am supposed to use, nothing on Maxtors website and the MSI K8N manual is appauling.
Can anyone help?

Since sata cables are single ended, each connected drive is a "master" There are 2 channels (1&2) and (3&4) running off seperate paired controllers in the nb. Swapping raids is a simple matter of switching cables, booting to bios to change sata and raid settings, then when rebooting going to f10 and rebuilding the array. One last reboot to bios to set your boot order now that you have an array and you're good to go. There should be no data loss through this.
Now booting from them can be a different story as windows uses logical drive positions in its boot, and swapping drive locations just destroys that association. Sometimes it can be repaired with the installation disk, and sometimes you yust need to do a reinstall after major changes (like relocating the OS)....
Heres a site that'll tell all you need to know about windows conflicts, booting and our friend - the BSOD..
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/install.html#WIN_REPAIR

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does not show up in bios or windows// help help

Isn't this your 2nd post on this? Did you intel rapid storage (raid controller)? Are you able to see the drives in there? Did you set them up as simple drives or w/er you want?
Did you check in disk manager and assign a drive letter?
The directions for how to do this are in your manual towards the end.
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TIA
Message was edited by: flommer

Hi flommer,
by default Windows or better said the Apple BootCamp Drivers for Windows can not see or use the odd SATA ports.
Have a look here http://osx86.net/archive/index.php/t-3159.html for possible solutions to that.
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Am I the only one with this behaviour or have others the same issue?
Best regards
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MINA2
I already replied to this same question in the other thread but I can reply here also.
In short, there is not any fix for this issue.
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Hi mbean,
I'm Sorry for expecting the most advanced OS to read a basic PC cardbus.
well to test a theory, I just loaded up bootcamp with XP Pro SP3 and, the expansion case works well (off my macpro intel, slot 2) , Plus the cardbus card (SIIG) is recognized and XP loaded a driver, I then loaded the Panasonic P2 Driver, re booted and then inserted a P2 card and it came up instantly on the desktop as it should, all work well n fast.
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The PCIe to PCI expansion case IS a cool idea for more slots, it's just the OS that let's the operation down.
As malcolm said (Some, such as FireWire and USB cards, will not need drivers.) My firewire 800 card works OK in teh expansion case and a USB card will most likely work too.
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For port 993, is SSL checked & authentication = Password?
Could this be it?
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Flash the MB BIOS. No better.
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Hints?

It does help knowing other people are getting the same hardware to work. Gives me hope.
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Hi there, I'm new to this forum.
My virgin system consists of
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CoolerMaster Silent Pro M600
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1 Yes, or load with F6 during install
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What do the Ram timings mean and does it matter which SATA port?

hi
is it a thread or could you guys add 1. i just bought 2x p55a- gd65 mobos. im sorry i do not build pc's all the time. i buy every few years and try to get up to date tech..
my problem is. each new tech i go up say kn8 to an9 ddr to ddr2 etc. some of the wording in memory set up changes and or more setting options. im not sure what the 4 main settings are. say i have memory that is 8-8-8-24 and want to make it 9-9-9-24. im not sure exactly which settings to change.. i think 1 settings has cl in the wording- i know what cl is- im not sure of the others.. this lil bit of info added to the manual would help us simple folks a lot..
well maybe you guys could start another thread- maybe you can sticky them. or put all of this in a general new p55 build thread.. but.
i noticed in the manual for my 2 new p55a- gd65 and or on the mobo. the satas are stacked 2 in a stack which one is sata 1 and sata 2. its not clear in the manual. i want to guess sata 1 is the 1 closest to the mobo or pcb and 2 is on top.. i have not checked yet. but what about the io plate and say usb. i guess some of them are stacked and maybe a few of them. which is stack 1 or usb 1 and 2 etc. again id guess the 1 closest to the mobo is 1. but what about if it is a few different stacks. where would the count start from top of mobo or the bottom up.. lil things like this can snag us simple folks. but in less than 1/3 of a page in the manual for these issues could be explained with ease or by adding a few numbers to the photos etc. if i remember right my abit mobos always added the lil numbers what ever to the system photos or drawings. it helped to set up the system faster and helped even more us that do not build systems often.. we should not have to guess- a few simple lil numbers on the drawings would be sweet.
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The timing explanations are all over the net. For instance, at techpowerup, there is page explaining all the timings.
http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=131
An excerpt from the webpage.
Quote from: http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=131
Introduction
Have you ever wondered what those numbers “2.5-3-3-8” or “2-2-2-5” and so on mean? Or have you seen words like “CAS” and “tRCD”? These are the timings for the memory, or the speed at which it processes certain commands. This whole settings area can be quite confusing and you have to have a certain knowledge of it, if you plan on overclocking. But some of you may just be plain curious as to what they are.
Rated Memory Timings.
* CAS (tCL) Timing: CAS stands for Column Address Strobe or Column Address Select. It controls the amount of time in cycles between sending a reading command and the time to act on it. From the beginning of the CAS to the end of the CAS is the latency. The lower the time of these in cycles, the higher the memory performance.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “2.5” is the CAS timing.
* tRCD Timing: RAS to CAS Delay (Row Address Strobe/Select to Column Address Strobe/Select). Is the amount of time in cycles for issuing an active command and the read/write commands.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “3” is the tRCD timing.
* tRP Timing: Row Precharge Time. This is the minimum time between active commands and the read/writes of the next bank on the memory module.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “3” is the tRP timing.
* tRAS Timing: Min RAS Active Time. The amount of time between a row being activated by precharge and deactivated. A row cannot be deactivated until tRAS has completed. The lower this is, the faster the performance, but if it is set too low, it can cause data corruption by deactivating the row too soon.
tRAS = tCL + tRCD + tRP (+/- 1) so that it gives everything enought time before closing the bank.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “8” is the tRAS timing.
(The 2.5-3-3-8 figure is just an example for memory timings.)
These are the four timings that you would see when memory is being rated. It is in the order of CAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS. The lower these timings, the higher the performance of the memory. Some motherboard manufactors (DFI for example) list the timings in their bios CAS-tRCD-tRAS-tRP.
Certain memories can take tighter (lower) timings at higher speeds. These are the more expensive memory modules out of the bunch. There are also other timings to consider in your BIOS. Not all boards will have options like these.
http://www.techpowerup.com
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Can't achieve 6GB/s with sata 3 HHDs

Hi all,
I just did my first MSI build on the 880GMA-e53.
Using two WD sata 3 blue HDs, 500 GBs each configured in raid 0 using the Marvell SE9128 controller. Yes I'm on the correct sata ports, 7,8.
Installed XP home 32 bit, partitioned the drive, then installed w7 pro 64 bit.
Device manager is clear and the pc is nicely responsive.
However, using HD tune it shows just over 200MB/s at best and says I have sata 2 HDDs under the info tab.
HD tune is outed.
Using Atto, I only max around 225MB/s.
I am using sata cables that I had for awhile and they are around 18" long.
Bios is set to IDE not ACHI and naturally I am enabled and set to RAID.
Downloaded a file from MSI for sata 3 support.
Why am I nowhere near 6GB/s?
Setup: PhenomII 550, two cores successfully unlocked, tested in torcher mode using intel burn.
8 GBs of OCZ black edition ram. Running the onboard 4250.
Seasonic PSU 530 watt.
When I was running blue WD hdds in my asus M4a78T-E
in a raid 0 config, 320GBs each, it scored the same HDD number as my sata 3s, 5.9.
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Quote from: sjay on 10-April-11, 11:31:08
You also need sataIII cables
That's also a marketing myth, there's no such thing as a 'real' SATA rev3 cable. Found this info from another site:
Quote
Here is what the SATA-IO organisation that specifies the Sata revisions says about cables in its FAQs
http://www.sata-io.org/documents/SATA-Revision-3.0-FAQ-FINAL.pdf
Q9: Does SATA 6Gb/s require different connectors and cables to support the higher
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A9: The same cables and connectors used for current SATA 1.5 and SATA 3.0 Gb/s implementations can be used to connect SATA 6Gb/s devices, although SATA-IO recommends
quality components be selected to ensure data integrity and robust operation at the faster SATA
6Gb/s transfer rate. Keeping the existing SATA connector form factor enables SATA 6Gb/s to
be designed into the same cost-conscious hardware architectures while minimizing
infrastructure changes.
Q14: Were there any attenuation or jitter issues that had to be addressed with the jump to
6Gb/s?
A14: Ensuring signal integrity was the primary challenge in doubling the SATA transfer speed
for a second time while using the same cables and connectors that were originally defined for
the first generation 1.5Gb/s version.
Quote
"SATA Revision 3.0 was designed to facilitate a much more elegant – and cost
effective – migration to higher data rates. Rather than completely redefining the spec,
SATA Revision 3.0 achieves its data rate increase by faster signal switching. While this
has resulted in changes to the PHY, modifications to the protocol have been kept to a
minimum. In addition, SATA Revision 3.0 is backward compatible so that the same
connectors and cabling used for SATA 3 Gb/s under SATA Revision 2.6 can be used for
SATA 6Gb/s.
This decision not only enables end-users to retain their existing investment in
cabling when moving to SATA 6Gb/s
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much of their existing IP. Except for the doubling of the data rate, SATA Revision 3.0 is
no more complex than SATA Revision 2.6 from an electrical perspective, and no heroics
are required to implement the technology at 6Gb/s speeds."
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Quote
I just recived my Akasa SATA3 cables yesterday. I have been using the SATA2 cables and there is abselutly no diffrence between performance on SATA2 vs SATA3 cables. All benchmarks were the same, so it looks like it is just an selling argument that you need SATA3 cables.

Installing Windows on drive attached to extra SATA port

I posted this incorrectly into the MacBook Pro so I have reposted here:
I have a Mac Pro with 4x500GB drives in RAID 10. Since bootcamp can't be installed on this RAID setup I took the stock apple 250GB drive and put it into an external SATA enclosure.
I have since booted to that external sata disk (by holding down the option key during boot) installed bootcamp and partitioned that drive for windows XP. So the drive now has both OSX and a partition for XP that I made via bootcamp. After that was finished I clicked the key to "install Windows now" or whatever.
The plan here is to just turn on that external drive whenever I need to run windows or install firmware updates for the Mac since apple can't seem how to do either with a software RAID set in place on the existing 4 internal drives.
After doing the above steps I now have 2 problems:
1. When booting from a XP SP2 disk to install XP the only drives seen are the 4 internal ones and not the extra sata port that is connected. This leads me to believe that I need to slipstream drivers for the extra two unused sata ports into the install disk but am not sure, I am hoping for some input.
2. Now when I power off the external SATA drive the only way I can boot back into my normal OSX RAID10 setup is by holding down the 'option' key and choosing one of the 4 RAID10 disks that are listed. After I do this it boots fine but I have to do this every time I boot my system which get really old.
If I don't hold the option key down down the system will just boot to a black screen asking me to "insert boot media". It seems like it is stuck in the bootcamp mode so I need to figure out how to get out of it.
I wonder if I can just uninstall bootcamp from the external SATA drive to fix this so that my system will boot normally? I will give this a shot tomorrow b/c I don't have time tonight but I appreciate any helpful advice.
If anyone has any ideas on how to get XP installed while running RAID please share. I know I can use an IDE drive but I have 2 optical drives installed so that is out for the moment but I may need to do that if I can't get the SATA option working.

The enclosure is usb and eSATA (external SATA) the drive is connected via a SATA cable to a SATA 3.5" adapter plate on the back of the mac pro that is connected to one of the unused extra 2 SATA ports that are tucked away behind the heatsinks on the Mac Pro's motherboard. So it is SATA all the way to the motherboard, I am not using USB at all.
As noted above, yes you can install XP on an IDE hard drive and put it into the optical bay area but I have two DVD burners installed there and would like to use the setup I have now if possible.
I was able to fix my 2nd issue listed above thanks to a suggestion in another forum of going into my startup disk options and choosing my RAID 10 setup. Now my system boots fine.
So back to the issue of installing XP on one of those extra unused SATA ports, if we can find out what brand controller those 2 ports are (intel, siig, silicon image, etc.) we could slipstream the drivers into the XP CD and then the windows install should work. Coming from a PC backgrounds and having installed various versions of windows literally at least 500+ times I have had to use the 'F6' optoin to install SATA/RAID/SCSI drivers from a floppy hundreds of times. The problem here is that we don't know what brand hardware it is or if it is possibly an issue with EFI not enabling those ports or something unless OSX boots, because booting to OSX connected to one of those extra ports works fine.
I guess I should also just ask again to be clear: You CAN'T install bootcamp on a RAID setup correct? Because I get an error everytime I try to run the bootcamp setup assistant. Geez, I wish apple would just enable the native RAID support built into the intel southbridge, that would solve the bootcamp problem, the RAID 10 setup problem where you can't setup RAID 10 via the GUI, and also the fact that you can't install any firmware updates to the box.
MB Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8) Mac Pro 2.66, 4x500GB RAID 10, 1GBx4, X1900XT MB Pro 2Ghz Dual Boot w/MCE 2005

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