Can't switch Startup Disks - System Freezes

I read and applied many solutions to my problem, but after I switched over from OS 10.2.8 to 9.1 I've had nothing but freezes and can't get out of 9.1. Here's what I tried.
*Holding down the x key.
*Trashing preferences ASLM, Finder, Mac OS, & System
*Holding down keys: Apple, Option, Shift & Delete
*Zapping PRAM: Changed the screen to flashing ? & Mac file folder, then eventually attempted restart but with large images on the screen. It seems like it made it worse.
*Removed the battery. Tried to restart. No change.
*Unplugged the machine, bought a new battery, installed it & plugged in and restarted. Nothing changed.
The computer freezes on Restart unless I hold down the Shift key and starts with Extensions Off.
*Then I went into Control Panels/Startup Disk, switched to 10.2.8, and whether I click on Restart or just highlight 10.2.8 and try to Restart from the drop down menu the machine freezes.
It freezes on regular startup without extensions Off, and any attempt to Restart.
*I also tried Disk First Aid several times. At first I received the message that everything appears to be normal. Then on another attempt I received "Test interrupted because another program is using the disk."
What else can I do? Help!
Thank you,
Dave
G3 Blue Mac OS X (10.2.x) Also 9.1

Hi, David -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
From the specs you've given - G3 Blue Mac
Is your machine a G3 B&W (Blue & White) 'tower' model? - or is it an iMac?
If it is an iMac, which specific model? - what is the CPU (machine) speed?
Be sure you have updated the firmware for your model -
Article #86117 - Firmware Updates
Some machines need that firmware update before the X key will force a boot to OSX. If your machine needs a firmware update, it will need to be installed while it is booted to OS 9 from the internal hard drive. Running the firmware installer is safe - if your machine does not need it (such as it has already been done), the installer will so state and refuse to run further.
The Startup Disk control panel that comes with OS 9.1 and earlier is not capable of recognizing OSX as a valid OS. The solution is to either update the OS to OS 9.2.1 or later (which can be done via download updater), or update just the control panel. You can download a replacement control panel from this page -
Startup Disk 9.2.1 Document and Software
It may help to throw away the file named Startup Disk Preferences (System Folder >> Preferences >> Startup Disk Preferences) after replacing that control panel.
FWIW, I've found that using the Restart button in OS 9's Startup Disk control panel usually does not work worth a hoot. What does work, is to make the selection of boot volume/OS in Startup Disk, then close the control panel and use the Restart item in Finder's Special menu.
I also tried Disk First Aid several times. At first I received the message that everything appears to be normal. Then on another attempt I received "Test interrupted because another program is using the disk."
That would indicate you are running Disk First Aid from the hard drive while booted to the hard drive. In order for DFA to do some diagnostics or testing and to do any repairs the machine can not be booted to the hard drive being examined, nor DFA run from it.
The solution for that is to boot to (in this case) an OS 9 Install CD (the most recent one you have valid for that machine - a retail OS 9.1 Install CD is perfect) -and then run DFA from the CD - it can be found in the Utilities folder on any OS 9 install CD.
It freezes on regular startup without extensions Off, and any attempt to Restart.
At what point does it freeze?
- before extensions start to load?
- in the middle of extensions and control panels loading?
- after extensions and control panels have loaded, but before the desktop has fully loaded?
- or some other point?

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Mar 20 17:49:56 Mini ReportCrash[195]: Saved crashreport to /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/quicklookd2009-03-20-174954Mini.crash using uid: 0 gid: 0, euid: 0 egid: 0
Mar 20 17:49:55 Mini com.apple.launchd[108] (com.apple.quicklook[190]): Exited abnormally: Abort trap
Mar 20 17:49:55 Mini com.apple.launchd[108] (com.apple.quicklook): Throttling respawn: Will start in 5 seconds

Leopard can't find startup disk, or HD

Hi,
My MacBook (installed Leopard on it about a month ago) hung last night as I was using Firefox, so I powered down and then restarted. A folder with flashing ? icon showed up, so I searched the forums and found some other people who had had the same issue, and tried the suggestions of booting in single-user mode (no luck) and also resetting the PRAM (no luck either).
I then inserted the install disk, and from the Install screen tried to repair my disk using Disk Utility. Unfortunately my HD is not being recognized, so there's no way for me to repair it. Also, when I tried to just reinstall Leopard, the install disc does not recognize any place on my machine where it can be installed-apparently my HD is invisible/missing there as well.
Any ideas? Also, I cannot figure out how to get the install disk out!
Thanks

your hard drive seems to be completely hosed and needs to be replaced. to eject the install disk restart and hold option at the chime. at the startup manager screen press "eject".

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I have Windows XP installed in Bootcamp on my Mac pro. Now when I want to choose to start in Windows at System Preference Start Up Disk, the Windows XP icon is not there anymore!
Someone have an idea?
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Thank you Tug!
Actually the issue is Tuxera ntfs. I just unistalled it and It's O.K. now.

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I'm running Tiger on an old G4 iBook. I tried upgrading to Leopard, but after lots of churning I got the message that I couldn't do this because I don't have enough RAM. Problem is, when I try to switch startup disk back to the local disk from the installation disk, the optical drive churns and churns and ultimately the system freezes up before I can consummate the switch. I therefore have to do a hard reboot, which starts the installation process again. Is there a way of forcing a switch in the startup disk while rebooting? Some combination of option key and other key?

Here's the *Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard installation system requirements*
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24950
Were you using a black, retail Leopard DVD installer or a gray installer from another model Mac (won't work)?
 Cheers, Tom

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