Can't upgrade OS to Tiger

I have a PowerBook G4 17" 1gHz. When I try to install Tiger from retail disks, the hard drive doesn't show up as an installation destination. If I install Tiger from another computer using target disk mode, or try to boot from an external drive with Tiger installed, the PowerBook just gives me the gray screen with rotating gear forever and never boots. I have taken the computer to the Genius Bar at the Apple store, and they couldn't do any better in the 15 minutes they allot. I have tried a clean install, re-initialized the hard drive, repaired permissions and reset the PRAM. The machine works OK with the system it shipped with, but crashes more than I would like--and obviously won't run a lot of newer software.

Pieter5:
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Your computer was first introduced January 2003 (Shipped March 2003) and discontinued September 2003. If you have the original Hard Disk Drive (HDD) in the computer it is now over six years old. The average life of these drives is three to five years, and even before they fail completely their performance is slowly degraded. That would be the first place I would look. The AHT tests suggested by BGreg will check the HDD along with other hardware. If you can boot from the install disk try running Disk Utility and look particularly for the S.M.A.R.T Status, which, though not very accurate in Disk Utility, may give some indication of failing HDD. However, Disk Utility can also give you unreliable "verified" readings. So the "failing" grade is more reliable than the "verified".
If, of course, you have replaced the HDD and no longer have the original, please post back with info about your HDD.
cornelius

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