Can you color correct before rendering?

This is a simple beginner question.
Lets say I make something that's 20 min long with a lot of cuts and I want to color correct the whole thing as one. Is there a way to do that before rendering it out or will I have to render it out for several hours, import it back in, color correct and then render it out a second time?

If you're using Premiere cs6 you can simply use a adjustment layer for doing this color correction task. Just take the adjustment layer and extend it on a video track over top of all your video clips and put your desired CC effect on the adjustment layer then you're ready to roll.
If you don't have Premiere Pro cs6 and you have cs4 cs5 or you have 5.5 then you can create a new sequence that matches your exact settings used in your original sequence, then take your original sequence and drag and drop it into your new sequence/timeline and then stick the color correction effect on your old sequence once it's inside the new sequence you just created.

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still i need to add Car Allowance and Bank details in above query pls tell me where i can get dept details in oracle core HR
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Edited by: 981527 on Jan 30, 2013 3:41 AM
Edited by: 981527 on Jan 31, 2013 1:22 AM
Edited by: 981527 on Jan 31, 2013 1:30 AM
Edited by: 981527 on Jan 31, 2013 9:03 PM
Edited by: 981527 on Feb 1, 2013 4:50 AM

I am taking a guess that 'Dept' is where the employee works, so that will be the column 'NAME' in the table HR_ALL_ORGANIZATION_UNITS; you will need to join with this table on the assignment's organization_id value
Edited to add: Whilst you're testing this, you might want to consider removing the table PAY_ELEMENT_ENTRIES_F from the table list, otherwise you can look forward to potentially large cartesian product of returned rows!
Clive
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I have two individual angles I'm going to sync and make a multiclip out of. One of my clips is horribly bright and requires some serious fixing in Color.
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You could color correct before if you like, if your angle is rock solid and the changes will be consistent throughout. I don't do it that way but have been tempted.
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I have some questions about work flow in AE concerning compositing and Color Correction. I saw many tuts about (f.e. Lynda.com Premiere Pro Color Correction and Enhancement... and tuts by Andrew Davis here in creative.cow).
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Anybody can help me to understand or maybe suggest any tuts to dale this common issue in AE- Pre Pro?
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Dave is correct. (And so is Mylenium. No need to be rude, when he was jsut trying to explain that you were introducing unnecessary complexity.)
The color matting is removed to interpret the alpha channel when you import the footage. After that, any color correction that you do to a layer based ont hat footage item doesn't have anything to do with whether the channels were straight or premultiplied for the source item.
You color-correct your individual items to amke them match as part of the compositing process in After Effects. Then, if you want to do a color grade of the shot in Premiere Pro along with other shots, you'd be working on the single rendered/flattened composite, so the details of the original elements that went into the composite are irrelevant.

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