Can you put Forms 6 on the web without OAS?

Do you have to use the Oracle Application Server if you want to put Forms 6 applications on the web?
Is it possible to configure webforms system without using OAS?
We use Microsoft IIS webserver and plan to use the CGI-BIN interface to put oracle reports on the web.
Thanks.
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Bob,
I have been watching this discussion group now for some time and I have noticed that you are answering a lot of questions about Oracle Developer, mostly correctly.
However, your experiences with Netscape and Jinitiator seem a little unfortunate, you (and others) may find the following information useful
The problem you have referred to where the form does not appear was a known problem both with Jinitiator 1.1.5.21.1 and the original shipment of forms 6.0.5.29.1. This problem is usually fixed (depending on what was the root of your problem) by upgrading past patch 3 of ODS6 and upto Jinitiator 1.1.7.18.
There are other reasons that the form may not appear but these are usually flagged by an FRM-99999 error. Not overly helpful I understand, but drilling in on the java console window that pops up will usually point out the area of the problem. We realise that this is not necessarily as helpful as it could be and we will be shortly posting a document (to the tune of 121 pages) where a lot of the FRM-99999 errors are explained and a method for troubleshooting is outlined.
The following configurations can be used for running ODS
Netscape 4 + Jinit
IE 4/5 + Jinit
IE5 incl Patch 1 Native
Appletviewer
In answer to the question from Richard Chadd you can happily run ODS6 without OAS, as Bob correctly points out, if you don't want to use the cartridge.
The cartridge is needed if you want to deploy your Forms Server application across multiple machines, the reason for this is that the cartridge (in v6) is the only method for accessing a variable called LEASTLOADEDHOST, this variable is used to indicate to the Metrics Server (the element inside ODS that manages the connections on each machine) the number of concurrent connections on each machine.
If you are happy running on one machine (from a user count and hardware point of view) then you will not need to do load balancing and therefore will not need to use OAS.
With the latest release of Oracle Forms Server release 6i (note the name change) you will never need OAS, even if you want to load balance. We will be supplying a CGI executable that provides the same (and more) functionality as the OAS cartridge, thus you will be able to deploy your OFS applications to multiple machines and still stick with your favourite web server.
The other features we have added in 6i are
- Smart Server Install
- SSL
- HTTP
- OEM Integration
For full details you should download the product details from Technet, but in short the smart server install should resolve a lot of the problems that we are seeing on this (and other) discussion lists. It basically asks a series of questions and (based on your answers) chooses to install and set up it's own lightweight listener (taken from WebDB) and creates the base html files, the virtual directory mappings etc etc.
The HTTP is the same as was in 6.0 but is now a supported feature as opposed to being a beta feature, you may now optionally choose to switch on SSL for that communication as well.
The OEM integration refers to Oracle Enterprise Manager, you may now install an agent on an OFS box and the agent will report to OEM that OFS is installed and will thus allow you to start and stop forms listeners, dynamically turn on logging, kill users etc etc all remotely.
Sorry if this seems like a marketing message, but I thought you might like a heads up on what is now available.
I also thought that you might like to know that we in Product Management spend a large amount of time watching discussion groups and newsgroups.
If you are looking to discuss OFS with other like minded users then there are also several other places that Product Management may be seen, these are comp.databases.oracle.tools and the ODTUG mailing list.
Obviously the newsgroups are free, but ODTUG requires you to purchase a membership.
Jason Pepper
Oracle Enterprise Internet Tools
Product Management

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