Can you rig Discoverer to use custom application user logins?

This is using Discoverer 10.1.x and Oracle 10.2.x
Instead of having database user accounts, is there a way to get Discoverer to use/recognize logins created for our application which are stored in a table?
From what I've heard, 11i can do this but we're already gone forward with this structure and we really don't need all of the other things that come with that package.
I've looked around and it looks like some form of implementation of the Discoverer login trigger may be able to be used but I'm still not sure.
Thanks.
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Well let me explain as I know it - and the easiest would be to start with pre-10g.
If you were installing Disco v4.x, then - if you have Oracle Apps installed - you could create an Apps EUL. This would mean that all users would be Apps users and when you setup the gateway info correctly in Disco Admin and Disco Desktop, when you logged in as an Apps user you would get a window displayed with the Apps responsibilities you were set up with and allow you to choose one (in Disco I mean).
So, there was no requirement for an Applications Server middle layer.
Then (well after v9), Disco 10g came on the scene. The 'normal' version that you'll see pushed - and by rights it's a great product with huge improvements - is to use the full blown version that requires the Oracle iAS 10g set up as well. When you do this, all the webby versions of: Disco Plus, Disco Viewer, Oracle Reports, Oracle Forms, Portals, SSO, etc. are handled in the middle iAS layer. Reason was that Oracle was tired of having multiple servers (ie: one for Forms, one for Reports, one for Disco, etc.) having to be maintained.
So, that requirement means you HAVE to have the iAS middle layer.
However ... you can still download - and therefore I would assume, purchase - a version (and a new one like 10g) that I think does not require the iAS middle layer. That would mean you'd be running 10g Plus, Viewer, Desktop and Admin via an Apps EUL, but not going through the iAS (as the EUL is stored in the database, not in the iAS). It may be called 'developer suite' these days, but not sure as there are different names / renames going around.
You could easily use such a product, and then when you go to using the middle layer goodies / setup of iAS, then should be no problem as you're not altering the EUL at all per se, just connections.
So, with the correct version of the newest software, I believe what you want to do is entirely possible - and upgrade to the iAS addition (so you get Portals and SSO) later.
I'm sure others will comment on this, so hopefully I'm in the correct arena.
Russ

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