Cannot access DSL modem in bridge mode w/ Airport Extreme

Hi
I have the following setup:
DSL Modem: Used in bridge mode + NAT/DHCP/Firewall turned off. Static IP is set to 192.168.2.1
Airport Extreme: In PPPOE mode with Shared IP (which is selected by default): Distributes IP range 192.168.1.X with subnet 255.255.255.0. At this point, Airport Extreme's IP address is what it gets from the ISP, basically DSL Modem is passing thru' this to the AE.
Ethernet cable is running from DSL modem to AE's WAN.
In this mode, everything works fine and me and all others can use Internet fine...
But the problem is that I can't ping/ access DSL modem at all in this mode. Basically, I need to login to the DSL modem to monitor my DSL connection quality (SNR, Attenuation, etc.) but whatever I tried I could not figure out how.
Basically, I tried setting a static IP on the DSL modem as 192.168.1.3, this did not work. I read somewhere that it needs to be on a different subnet, so tried using 192.168.2.1, that did not work either.
If I connect the DSL modem to a machine directly and set that machine's IP to 192.168.2.10, it can connect to the DSL modem, but there is no way I could access this DSL modem from the setup I explained above.
I am simply out of solutions at this point and any idea would be appreciated.
Thanks a ton!

What you are asking about is generally possible but probably not with an Airport Extreme. As others have noted you SHOULD be able to access a DSL modem in bridge mode via it's "lan" IP address if you directly attach a cable to it and configure your computer with appropriate static IP settings (I'm assuming that in bridge mode the DSL modem has it's DHCP server disabled).
This approach can also be achieve through a router with sufficiently flexible configuration options (e.g. openwrt open-source firmware). Basically the router attaches its WAN port to the modem like usual. Then the router is configured to do PPPOE via the WAN port while SIMULTANEOUSLY assigning the WAN port a static IP address that can connect to the modem's LAN address. Finally the router firewall must be configured to pass traffic from the DSL modem LAN IP back to the network.
So your intuition suggesting that this should be possible is absolutely right. However; you can probably also see from the steps required why most modems simply (incorrectly) document that it isn't possible.
Here's a link with some gory details on achieving this with an openwrt-based router: https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=10952

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