Cannot boot on Tiger Install DVD

Hi,
I have a PowerPC G5 2x2Ghz and I'm trying to reinstall Tiger on one of the two hard drives.
Here is my problem : no matter if I reboot from the Preferences or by pressing C or ALT, if I try to boot on the Install DVD, after the Apple shows up, a dark gray layer appears on my screen, saying that I need to restart my computer by holding down the power button for several seconds.
On the top of that, I have some complicated line :
Example :
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003) : 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Kernel version :
Darwin Kernel Version 8.0.0 : Sat Mar 26 14:15:22 PST 2005; root:xnu-792.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
panic : We are hanging here.
Any idea of what I can do about that? I really need to reinstall Tiger

You are having a kernel panic. Have you recently made any hardware changes like adding RAM?
Kernel panics are usually caused by a hardware problem – frequently RAM, a USB device or a Firewire device. What external devices do you have connected? When trying to troubleshoot problems, disconnect all external devices except your monitor, keyboard and mouse. Do you experience the same problems?
To eliminate RAM being the problem, Look at this link: Testing RAM @ http://guides.macrumors.com/Testing_RAM Then download & use Memtest & Ramber.
Do you have an Apple Hardware Test disc (the AHT is on the Install/Restore DVD that came with your Mac)? Running the Apple Hardware Test in Loop Mode is an excellent troubleshooting step for finding intermittent hardware problems. It is especially useful when troubleshooting intermittent kernel panics. If Loop Mode is supported by the version of the Apple Hardware Test you are using, you run the Extended Test in Loop Mode by pressing Control-L before starting the test. Looping On should appear in the right window. Then click the Extended Test button.The test will run continuously until a problem is found. If a problem is found, the test will cease to loop, indicating the problem it found. If the test fails, be sure to write down the exact message associated with the failure.In some cases, RAM problems did not show up until nearly 40 loops, so give it a good run.
May be a solution on one of these links.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106227 What's a "kernel panic"? (Mac OS X)
http://www.macmaps.com/kernelpanic.html Mac OS X Kernel Panic FAQ
http://www.index-site.com/kernelpanic.html Mac OS X Kernel Panic FAQ
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/kernelpanics.html Resolving Kernel Panics
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20060911080447777 Avoiding and eliminating Kernel panics
http://macosg.com/group/viewtopic.php?t=800 12-Step Program to Isolate Freezes and/or Kernel Panics
 Cheers, Tom

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Short version: When I try to boot up from the Tiger installation DVD, my Power Mac G5 gives me a kernel panic. Can anyone help?
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[Apple docs: What's a kernel panic? (Mac OS X)|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106227]
[Topic : kmosx: Kernel Panics? Don't panic too !|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=121923]
[X-Lab: Resolving Kernel Panics|http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/kernelpanics.html]
[Tutorial: Avoiding and eliminating Kernel panics|http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20060911080447777]
[Tutorial: An introduction to reading Mac OS X crash reports|http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20060309075929717]
[12-Step Program to Isolate Freezes and/or Kernel Panics|http://macosg.com/group/viewtopic.php?t=800]

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The major changes in Disk Utility from 10.5 to 10.5.3 were:
• Better handling of overlapped extent allocation errors. Third-party utilities, such as Alsoft’s DiskWarrior may still be better at this task.
• The addition of live verification: the ability to Verify your startup disk while booted from such. One of the intermediate releases
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Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X
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<sigh>
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