Cannot control Volume in Kompakt Patches. Anyone?

Question

for the sake of efficiency i want to make a multi from an instance in of kompakt for RA. (NB this is kompakt NOT kontakt)
the manual both in RA and for kompakt is very sketchy as to how to do this.
as i understand it, without the option 'use std cc for volume and pan' i should be able to control volume with cc0.
therefore, i can create single channel instances and convert the cc7 data to cc0 on its way to the channel strip with RA loaded in, and the cc0's via the indiviudally assigned midi channels should operate the volume for each patch.
but no, it does not work. i cannot even get the volume knob for the patch to write automation in latch mode on the track for the kompakt player.
i am completely flummoxed. if i am missing something then its awfully well hidden....
anyone else? or do i just have to load instances for each instrument? what about the stand alone for kompakt. i don't seem to have that. anyone know where i can get it? errr...and yes i have tried the native instruments website but i am getting sick of the dead ends.....

Answer 1

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Midi Controller data is not automated with Logic's automation. You have to record/write Midi Controller Data into the Region event list (you can also do this by drawing with the pencil tool in the Hyper edit). With a Multi instance of Kompakt this Midi CC data will affect all of your Channels at once though so it's not really usable for Multi instances. This is a known Logic/Kompakt/Kontakt issue but there is a solution - at least for Kontakt (I don't know Kompakt but assume it works the same).
If you look at the top left of your Kontakt GUI there is a menue calles "Auto". In there you can assign parameter numbers (#000-#999) to any knob by just dragging it from the menue to the knob (e.g. volume slider of your Instrument). Those parameters can then be automated in Logic by choosing the #000 from the Kontakt parameter list and writing/recording nodes.
hi mate, no i know about kontakt and it is no problem here.
but according to the kompakt manual, volume information for each individual patch is assigned to cc0 (unless you set the preference for it to be standard cc7).
but it ain't working.
in my scenario, i am using single channel insts created in the environment and then patched to a transformer which turns the cc7 messages generated by the volume slider on the single channle insts to cc0. this should (via the assigned midi channel) change the volume within kompakt.
i have experimented with a single fader. i have tried the option for cc7 standard both on and off. restarted kompakt as instructed and even restarted logic.
nothing.
usually, if you set latch on the channel strip and fiddle with a knob in the plug-in interface it will write automation which you can then discern and do the environment finagling without any problems.
but nothing. no automation is written. if you turn a volume knob for an individual patch it out to generate its own midi messages which you can view with the midi monitor.
nothing.
i really don't understand it. it's clearly something to do with kompakt but i surely can't be the only one.