Cannot initialize 2nd SATA drive

Hi everyone:
I just bought a Maxtor SATA drive for the 2nd bay in my PowerMac G5 2.3GHz DC. I installed it correctly, but when I fired-up my G5 for the first time, it said "Do not recognize the drive. Initialize, Ignore or Eject?" I hit "Initialize," but nothing happens. I do a System Check, and it appears there in text, but it does not appear on my desktop as an icon at all.
I go to Disk Utility, and again, it's there, but I can't mount it or repair it or do RAID with it or ANYTHING!
Please help!
PowerMac G5 2.3GHz DC Mac OS X (10.4.2) PowerMac G5 2.3GHz DC

If the drive appears in Disk Utility then do the following:
1. Open Disk Utility.
2. After DU loads select the hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process will take 30 minutes to an hour or more depending upon the drive size.
After the drive has been initialize it should appear on the Desktop.

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This 2nd SATA drive only holds data (I'm a musician
so it only holds sample data for streaming in Logic)
but it contains allot of information (185GB used of
233GB) which according to my math comes out to about
80% used. This should be acceptable amount, correct?
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