Cannot order smart playlists by date (sort of)

Hi,
After syncing, the order of my Smart Playlists are reversed. In other words, if sorted by "date added" in itunes the most recent song shows up at the bottom on my ipod. Nothing I have tried fixes the problem including copying it to a regular playlist (it also shows up in reverse). I have also tried copy to play order; no luck. Any one else having this problem? Is this a bug?
Thanks
Greg

It's a bug. I have an open support ticket for this issue. Uncheck the live update box after your smart playlist is populated and then re-sync your device. The playlist will be in the correct order on your device. You'll have to turn the live update on each time you need to repopulate/update our playlist and then deselect it again to sync to your deceive in the correct order. This has happened several times before with iTunes updates.

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