Cannot Vew Footage on my NTSC Monitor from FCP

I am having trouble viewing my NTSC screen for recording a project to a BETA. I have gone into EasySetup and selected both Blackmagic DeckLink NTSC 8 and 10 bit. Went into View, Vew Playback and tried selecting Blackmagic NTSC 8 and 10 bit and still cannot get the file on my NTSC monitor. My mouse will split off my screen over to it, but cannot get mov to show up over there to record into the BETA. I get sound, but no video in the recording, just a blue screen. Any thoughts

I'm working on a Mac OS X Version 10.4.10 Dual 2.5 GHz Power PC G5 with Fincal Cut Sudio Pro. A co-worker downloaded updates for our BlackMagic DeckLink. Last Friday everything was working fine. Today, it's not. I called him and he's the one who told me to go into EasySetup and select the BlackMagic DeckLink NTSC 8 or 10 Bit and everything should be back to Normal. Well, it's not, he's out of State, and I can't reach him now on his Cell. I'm not sure of the Brand of Decklink, I only now what it's called in FCP. I'm just the back up guy on this and now we have to overnight tv spots, if I can get them on a BETA.

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