Cannot WWW but can Appletalk IP

I have two out of our 16 Macs with the same problem.
The two Macs can see the local network fine; servers, printers, file sharing...
They cannot be accessed by ARD (yes it is setup perfectly in Sys Pref's)
They cannot access the internet via. Safari or eMail (Entourage or iMail)
System Prefs Network settings are set to DHCP just like all the other working Macs and they have an assigned IP number, Subnet Mask, Router, all is fine.
Any ideas please, I'm stumped...

OK.
So we've sort of narrowed things down to a timeframe.
More questions, and sitting at one of the problem macs:
Restart it once more, just so we know you've got a fresh start.
Leaving the mac with DHCP (getting IP address from router/server)
1) Can you ping another computer in your network by name?
(networkUtility>pingTool...ping macshortname)
a) If not, this isn't a 'show-stopper'
2) Can you ping internet address by name?
a) ping www.yahoo.com
b) ping yahoo.com
c) ping mail.yahoo.com
(results, please)
3) Can you ping internet address by number?
a) ping 17.254.0.91
(results?)
4) If (3a) responds with successful column of results, enter that IP address in Safari address bar.
(results?)

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