Canon 20D workflow help

HELP! i have a new canon 20d, my first digital SLR. i love the camera, but am completely perplexed by my workflow situation. i have Photoshop, iphoto, and the software that came with the 20d. i use a card reader to transfer images to my mac.
does anyone have a simple, efficient process for saving/editing/archiving the raws and jpegs?
in other words, how do i download from the card reader, save both raw photos and jpegs and then edit? what workflow works best for you?
so far, since i can't figure out which programs i should be using, i've defaulted to iphoto. i dowload directly into iphoto and have been editing my jpegs using iphoto. but cannot figure out the best way to access the raw photos and archive them onto cd's/dvd's. it took me a long time to even figure out where the raws were stored. (was able to do this with some helpful hints from another kind user on this forum.)
i found the raws in some 'originals' folders in my picture photo/iphoto library folder but the thumbnails are blank images. i tried to drag them into photoshop hoping i could view and save the raws there, then backup to a disc, but it did not recognize the type of file. so, right now, none of my photos are backed up onto cd's/dvd's as i don't know the best way to do this, and am unsure as to whether saving the raws that i found in the originals folders even makes sense if photo shop doesn't recognize them.
also,
i still have some photos on the original cards..so i can theoretically start the process fresh, if anyone thinks i should start from scratch...
i could really use help with the basics:
ie. once i've taken the photos, what do i do next? how should i set up my program preferences, which programs are best to use, how can i easily archive, etc.
if i haven't provided enough info, just let me know.
thanks!
eardog

I've been looking into this exact scenario (before purchasing FCE). A videographer friend of mine told me about a free software package called MPEG Streamclip to transcode the video to pretty much anything else, since the h.264 is apparently terrible to work with!
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html
I have NOT sued it yet, but my friend suggested I look at it because he uses it as well. He's a Final Cut Pro guy, but I'm guessing that this will work in FCE too? let me know what you find out. I'm on the fence of buying FCE!

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