Canon camcorder taped video importing problem

I recently upgraded to Tiger from Panther. Before the upgrade, I was able to import video from the tape and memory card in my Canon ZR85 camcorder. Since the upgrade, I can only import from the memory card. I've done all the troubleshooting from iMovie HD help, and am wondering if I should just install the previous version of iMovie (not HD) to have the capability to import the video on tape again or if there is a workaround. Anyone?
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.10)

that would be a fine workaround....
however it's puzzling why you can't import from a DV tape at all...
you should be able to do that without a hitch...

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