Canon HF10 and Apple TV

I'm thinking about buying the Canon HF10 and in my research I've got a couple of questions that I just wanted to be sure about. Am I correct that the file one would download off of the flash card is an AVCHD H.264 formatted file? What is the exact file extension? Also, does the built in 16gb card capture about 2 hours of footage at the highest quality? And let's say I pull this 16gb of data off the card and onto the computer via iMovie, will this take 16gb of hard disk space? Or does it somehow decompress and expand as I pull it off the camera? And, even though it's a h.264 compressed file, I won't be able to directly play it over my Apple TV? What do I need to do in order to play it on the Apple TV. I saw some posts saying it was best to record it in 24fps, but I'm not sure what to do after that.
Thanks!
Rod

hey there solsurfer,
if your cam is AVCHD, your footage will be converted to AIC in iMovie 08 or FCE4. these files will be about 4x the size of standard -def/MiniDV. so if 1 hour of DV=12.3 GB, then 1 hour of AVCHD/AIC will be 49.2GB. you might want to consider a large(320GB or more) HDD for your movies & events.
in iMovie 08 you edit your footage, then "Share" to Apple TV & the movie will be encoded & sent to iTunes.
specific questions about a cam's capture format/codec, quality & quantity on flash media should be available @ the manufacturer's 'site.
good luck.

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Welcome to the forum.
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To all who care,
I have a MacBook unibody and am running Snow Leopard. I have experienced all the same frustrations listed above and on other related posts with respect to the Canon HF10 and Leopard/Snow Leopard. I will tell you that it made absolutely NO SENSE to me why Canon, a very Mac friendly company, would make these procedures SO difficult. Why would I purchase a compact high definition camera that fits in the palm of my hand if space saving and simplification was not a premium in the decision matrix of my investment? You're telling me I need to travel with a power cord, USB cable and an installation CD/DVD at every juncture of my video editing with cords scattered from heck to breakfast? Well, I don't, and Canon didn't intend on my doing that, either.
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