Canon HV10 delay capture to imovie

hello all
When importing to G4 laptop HD video from Canon HD10 get message at bottom of imovie monitor: "capturing HD at 1/4 speed". It eventually captures the video material, but takes forever, and camera runs on way past the true endpoint of material being captured. What's happening here? I want to upgrade to new laptop or iMac, but in store trial shows that many (but not all) of new models do same thing.
Insights?

hey there sailworks & welcome to Discussions,
HDV import requires a lot of RAM & CPU to approach realtime ingest because iMovie is converting the HDV to A.I.C.-Apple Intermediate Codec on the fly. i have 2.5 GB RAM in my DP G5 to get realtime ingest. i tested HDV import on my 1GHz G4 w/ 512MB RAM & got 1/8 speed ingest. like QT Kirk says you'll need Dual Core or Dual Processors & @ least 2 GB RAM. you'll also want to get an ext. firewire HDD as the file sizes are about 4x as large as DV.
good luck.

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