Canon Hv20 stops logging

I have got an iMac and I used to capture from my HDV-Canon HV20 without problems. Now the logging stops after 2 seconds telling me that band end is reached. But it isn't. How can I make it run again?
Thanks for help! Greetings Sigi from Austria

Please give your full system specifications, what computer, what drives, how everything's connected, what settings are on the media, what settings you're using in Final Cut, and finally what version of the software, of the OS, and of QuickTime are you using?

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This question doesn't seem to be have answered very succinctly in other posts, though it seems to have been touched on.
I am trying to capture HDV footage into FCE from a Canon HV20 camera. I want to be able to log and capture the footage, but I can't seem to be able to use the log and capture function, as I cannot control the HV20 camera through FCE. Is this normal? I am able to do this fine in Final Cut Pro. Is there a reason why this would be different between the two apps??
Any help or plugins or just a "yeah, you're out of luck", would be much appreciated.

Hi Tom,
The original footage was recorded on a HDV tape. HV20 recording setup: HD STANDARD is "HDV", COMP OUT is "1080i".
My HV20 is connected via a DV cable (IEEE 1394) from the HDV/DV port to the Firewire 400 port on the back of the iMac. The only other connected component is the keyboard with a wireless mighty mouse. As for the HV20 setup, PLAYBACK STD is "HDV", COMP OUT is "1080i", DV OUTPUT is "HDV/DV". One thing I did notice, is that as soon as I connect the firewire to the HV20, PLAYBACK STD and DV OUTPUT are grayed out in the playback setup menu.
I'm using FCE 4.0 (pre-installed last week by Apple), set for HD, HDV Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60, using "all rates". My scratch disk is defaulted to the iMac HD with over 450GB. When I then execute a capture, I first get prompted for a file name, then I get a black screen with the Apple logo in the center and the "Cueing Tape - press ESC..." msg while the HV20 tape begins to play. When this occurs, the HV20 LCD turns blue and the following text appears: PLAYBACK STD LOCKED, PLAYBACK IS RESTRICTED. Once I press ESC, the HV20 tape stops, the black screen disappears, and no capture files...
If I try a NTSC DV setting, I am able to capture from the HV20 - this said, as well as the fact that my iMac does recognize that I have a HV20 connected via the firewire port (see below), I am therefore assuming that my connection is correct and working properly.
Below are my current system settings:
*System Software Overview:*
System Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C31)
Kernel Version: Darwin 9.2.0
Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
Boot Mode: Normal
*Final Cut Express:*
Version: 4.0
Last Modified: 05/02/08 1:17 PM
Kind: Universal
Get Info String: Final Cut Express 4.0, Copyright © 2002-2007 Apple Inc.
Location: /Applications/Final Cut Express.app
*QuickTime Player:*
Version: 7.4.1
Last Modified: 13/02/08 7:42 AM
Kind: Universal
Get Info String: 7.4.1, Copyright © 1989-2008 Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved
Location: /Applications/QuickTime Player.app
*Hardware Overview:*
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B01
SMC Version: 1.21f4
Serial Number: QP806019ZCT
*FireWire Bus:*
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
HV20:
Manufacturer: Canon
Model: 0x10
GUID: 0x8500014D0170
Maximum Speed: Up to 100 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 100 Mb/sec
Sub-units:
HV20 Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x10001
Unit Spec ID: 0xA02D
*ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro:*
Chipset Model: ATI,RadeonHD2600
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x9583
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B2250F-219
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.219
Displays:
iMac:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No display connected
Intel ICH8-M AHCI:
Vendor: Intel
Product: ICH8-M AHCI
Speed: 3.0 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
*WDC WD5000AAKS-40YGA0:*
Capacity: 465.76 GB
Model: WDC WD5000AAKS-40YGA0
Revision: 58.01E02
Serial Number: WD-WCAS84640808
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Mac OS 9 Drivers: No
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
*Macintosh HD:*
Capacity: 465.44 GB
Available: 439.61 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
BSD Name: disk0s2
Mount Point: /
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Perhaps a different capture card is needed or Vista Ultimate (instead of the Home Premium that I have).
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Because my Canon is an SD-only unit, I can't really check its manual to help you. This line puzzles me a bit. What happens if you set this to OFF? Considering the number of menu options and switches that I have on my SD camera, I'd have expected your HD/SD unit to have more possible settings, but maybe I'm wrong and Canon has simplified things a lot.
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1) According the manual, I went to Capture settings panel (Edit > Project Settings > Capture) and selected HDV as capture format, because my video is at high definition.
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Sounds reasonable, using Add Media/HDV Camcorder, but....
Have you reviewed the Adobe write up on Premiere Elements 11 DV and HDV capture firewire into it.
http://help.adobe.com/fr_FR/premiereelements/using/WS5CDA0F91-60F1-4b79-ABF6-E9E75F498DB2. html#WS2AF26FB5-4C63-4c46-9DB3-7249558F6528
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http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/316970-video-capture-problems-HV20-camcorder-is-control led-but-no-video-capture
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Normally when I connect a digital still camera to my iMac via USB I get a "No Name" Hard Drive type icon on my desktop. The camera is basically just another HD. I can then open the icon and drag out the files.
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Hi,
I had similar trouble and came accross your post. I have since got mine to work (see below).
What is the format of the sequence you are trying to export? Is it 1080i, 720p, or something else?
My workflow involved importing clips from the Canon HV20 using iMovie at the 540p import setting (960 x 540 pixels). I would then edit in FCE 4, and my sequence settings would adjust automatically to my clips, i.e. 540p. When I tried to "print to tape" FCE would begin to export and I would hit OK on the computer screen, but the camera would not start recording.
I did some troubleshooting. What I had to do was create a new sequence 1080i and then copy/paste my edits from the 540p sequence into the 1080i sequence (and correct some incorrect motion on still images, because the resolution of the sequences were different). Now, when I "print to tape" the 1080i sequence, FCE actually does a HDV transcoding step (which takes a while on my iMac) and then the Canon HV20 records the sequence no problem. Of course, when viewed on the Canon HV20 miniDV tape to my HDTV the quality is a bit less than the original because of the down sampling to 540p. But anyway, I have an archived copy of my work. I have also had successfull "print to tape", with the HDV transcoding, using a 720p sequence.
The Lesson Learned: Import at full 1080i, or 720p, and make sure sequences match your import settings. Otherwise, you will end up mucking around with a bunch of conversion issues.
If there is another way to get non-1080i material to print to the HV20?? I'd love to hear about it since I have a couple of other very complicated sequences in 540p. I will be buying a bigger external hard disk to go 100% 1080i in the future. Live and learn.
Hope this helped,
Mace

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