Canon iP4500 - Switch OFF Color Management in Leopard 10.5.3

Hello,
a few days ago I've got the Canon iP4500; I've downloaded the latest drivers for it (on the Canon web called 2.1, but when installed it says 10.1). I wanted to profile the printer with the EyeOnePhoto spectrometer, so I logically wanted to switch OFF the color management in the printer driver for printing the reference file..
So, after hours of frustration I must give up: I can't find any way to switch the color management off. In my previous Canon there was an "Color mode: None" option, but for the iP4500 there is only "Standard" and "Vivid", e.g. "None" is missing in the dropdown options.
I've googled hours and read the online help with no success. The online help says it should be there, in "Color Correction" section. It's not. Am I having too new driver version or am I missing something? I've tried everything possible already, set the color management to "Vendor" and "ColorSync", looked in ColorSync Tool, changed media.. Nothing.. From none application, with any possible setting combination, IT IS NOT THERE..
Any ideas?
Thank you very much,
Andrej

Unfortunately the Canon inkjet drivers are not provided with an uninstaller, so it requires a manual clean-up. Following is my uninstall/reinstall procedure for the iP series of Canon printers...
1. Open System Preferences > Print & Fax. Highlight the Canon printer in the Printer list and click the minus ( - ) button.
2. Hold Control key and click in the empty Printers list. Click on Reset Printing System.
3. Close Print & Fax
4. Go to Library > Printers > Canon and delete the contents of the BJPrinter folder.
5. Go to Library > Receipts and delete the Canon driver package files. The file name will show Canon iP4500 xxx.pkg and there will be one for the Canon CUPS version, most likely showing v10.x.
6. Go to Library > Preferences and delete the Canon folder.
7. Empty the Trash
8. Unplug the Canon USB cable and restart the Mac
9. Reinstall the version 6.9.2 of the Canon driver.
10. Once the driver installation is complete, go to Applications > Utilities and open Disk Utility. Run the Repair Disk Permissions option.
11. Reconnect the Canon USB cable. Then open Print & Fax and see if the Canon printer is listed. If it is, try a test print.
12. If the printer is not listed, click the plus ( + ) button.
13. Select the Default view and select the Canon printer connected via the USB port. The Print Using menu should automatically change to Canon IJ Printer. This should be the v6.9.2 driver.
14. Click Add to add the printer.

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