Canon XHA1S white balance

Hello all.Is there a way for me to do an auto white balance that shows up on the LCD screen showing me what color temperature the sensor picked?That way I can check to make sure that I manually adjust the color temperature close to what the XHA1S buildt in meter read.I do'nt have the money for a color temperature meter.I can't find any stores that sell color temperature charts.Thank you.

Wayalive, Unfortunately no, I have as yet found no solution.
I'm still hoping that the issue can be resolved, but we have to keep it alive and not accept that LR/ACR will not handle white balance correctly for CR2 files.
My specific dilemma is that using white balance cards along with IR does not produce the same results as the proper handling of the white balance stored with the image. Specifically, I'm usually setting my white balance to a color such as the green of the leaves in a specific picture so as to produce a unique result. Attempting this using the custom white balance feature of Camera Raw against a CR2 file produces a vastly inferior result. It's the unique element of having both red and in this case green be treated as white that gives the false color images from the camera their specific appeal. This trick is the foundation of false color IR image creation where you trick the camera's internal software into producing what it thinks is a proper color image. Having ACR muck it all up after the fact is a big problem.
Post processing can, with a lot of effort, come close but this is an unacceptable penalty for using a camera and format that is stated to be supported.
Don Solomon,
Thanks for the info on LightZone, I'll look into giving that a try and see if it can clear up my issues as well.

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Didn't know you could drag inside a value field - that's helpful.
But being able to get different numbers on the slider isn't the root of my problem.
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