Cant extend range on TC or set up WDS relay/remote

I previously was running 3 x AE's (g) in a WDS configuration base, relay, remote to extend my network through my entire apartment. I was also using airtunes to stream music to 3 separate zones. It worked fantastic asides from having a slower internet connection speeds.
I recently just bought a TC 1TB and used it to replace the main base station in my wireless network. Setting it up wasnt a problem however, the range by itself wont cover my living space entirely. I tried setting up my (g) AE's as WDS clients as in my previous set up and it doesnt seem to work. I have clicked the tickbox on the TC to allow other clients to join. Once the AE updates I receive errors on the time capsule that says it cannot find other clients to join.
Is this possible to extend the network of my TC with older g AE's? Am i doing something wrong or is this simply a compatibility issue?
Can anyone offer some help?
Message was edited by: jatizado

Dear Akahan
Actually i was trying using the Quick VPN with the RV042 but i was using for the RV042 WAN Interface Virtual IP Address + Dynamic DNS Feature , but i failed to get the Quick VPN Client to establish a connection to the RV042 . I was wondering if you have any idea if the Quick VPN Client ( or any IPSEC VPN Client ) have an issue with using the DDNS Feature ?
Note : I tried to creat a PPTP Account over the RV042 and it worked with the DDNS with No Problems. Of course i did not use the Quick VPN Client , i used the Simple Windows XP VPN Connection and it was able to establish a Conenction to the RV042 ( I believe , Windows VPN Connection uses PPTP Not IPSEC ).
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