Cant find iphone back up files

Hi - can anyone help me find my iphone back up files?
There is no MobileSync folder: ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
(as per http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1766)
I did find the following MobileSync folder - but this was empty
~/Downloads/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
Any tips?
What I want to do store my current iphone backup file on a separate hard-drive.
cheers, Klaas

Vista puts the iphone update file in computer name/appdata/roaming/apple computer/itunes/iphone software updates.

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