Cant go above 235fsb with MSI neo4 plat SLI

I have started OCing my rig and it seemed to be going very well until 235fsb, now i have reached 2.35gig on the 3200+venice and DDR470 2.5-3-3-7 timings, and this is @Vcore1.45, 1.6chipset voltage and 2.7 RAM voltage, i tested for stability with SuperPI 16mb test and it finished successfully.
the problem is that whenever i try to go beyond these speeds SuperPI never completes the 4mb or higher tests, i upped the Vcore to 1.51 and lowered the RAM to DDR200, but it seems like no matter what i do i can never finish the test not even at 2.37gig,
any ideas??
::EDIT:: i have come across something on hardocp review for this mobo:
"It seems that the board is limited to a 235MHz FSB with the Aggressive timing option in the BIOS Cell Menu screen enabled. Anything above that FSB and the system will not post. However, it is a vastly different story with the Aggressive timing option disabled."
now i am sure that i have disabled agressive timings, but i still have the same problem.
pls help.

I suggest you read the sticky above about overclocking a neo4 board, disabling a couple of bios settings is required, including cpu spectrum among others, you need to do some research before you make a statement like " I can't or it won't", you havent done your homework on this, and it kind of sounds like you have posted here to get some quick and easy answer..... you are going about this backwards in my opinion, if you would have researched you would have already known about this disabling of bios settings....before you go ahead any further I suggest that you take some time to get the basics down first or else you are going to hit a lot of unecessary brick walls and you might end up doing damage to your system, upping voltage is to be used with caution and not as a quick fix, your bios settings and lack of knowledge are the only thing holding you back right now, and btw expect for it to take a couple of days to get it down right, ocing is about careful and caculated trial and error and it usually isn't something you can do off the top of your head, different boards over clock differently, then throw in the variable of which speed of ram you are using, what type of ram, your cpu cooling solution, your power supply, lots of variable to work through...get my drift.
Good luck and have a good day.

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hey there,
my 1st post here.
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recently i got this problem. Randomly my display goes blank, like the PC is on standby. The pc seems to be running but the monitor seems to be set to standby.
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Quote from: okta on 02-June-06, 00:35:16
hey there,
my 1st post here.
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Graphic: MSI 7600GS
CPU : AMD X2 3800+
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after i restart the PC(only able to do by the reset button, cannot Ctrl+Alt+del) everything seems to be ok.
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What kind of monitor, how is it connected and does it use calibration software. I've seen this with Samsung (and some OEM brands made by Samsung) monitors, which use Magictune, connected to the DVI port. Basically Magictune is crap ands clobbers the monitor's EDID info so that it switches to the VGA port - you can check this by plugging in the VGA cable. Depending on the monitor, it can cause permanent damage to the monitor's firmware which requires a firmware re-burn... or as apparently in your case, temporary damage which is fixed with a reboot. The only solution is to get a newer version of Magictune.. or dump it completely.

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Quote from: Arioch on 27-September-05, 01:54:12
The "distortion" as you describe it is static interference that goes through to the amplifier, due to the fact that you do not have a correct connection. If the connector does not fit, do not try to force it.
I would leave the case connectors unconnected for the moment, until you get sound through the spdif out. What type of connector is it to your speakers?
you are correct sir! i did some more research with different keywords after i posted my last post and realized that i needed a 1/8" stereo to RCA converter, so i hopped over to radio shack and purchased the little connector for 4 bucks and plugeed it in and walla. Thanks for the help though.
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FX-55
Antec 550 True Power
NEC DVD Rom
2GB OCZ Platinum Ram
and a single 7900 GTX
I was browsing some forums last night, and suddenly heard a loud *CRACK* from my computer. ???
The computer froze, but did not turn off.
Attempted a hard boot, and nothing not even a POST responds.
Popped open the content's, to see what might have happened.
And under the edge of my video card I notice that the SLI Switch Card has come loose. The little black plastic thing that was supposed to keep it in place had popped out. I attempted to place it back in to see if this would correct the problem (afraid it will not), but it will not stay securly lodged into place.
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2: Same idea as the first but using a hot knife or a soldering iron tip to flatten out the "small ball" part of the pin. (BE VERY careful not to over do it).
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MOVED: Neo4 Plat/SLI + Winnie.. Is MSI a respectable company? How can I trust them now?

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Neo4 Plat/SLI + Winnie.. Is MSI a respectable company? How can I trust them now?

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slave - 120GB HDD, data resides on this disk.
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K89 NEO4 PLAT/SLI Do I have to send it back?

No worries.
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No worries as it is not as hard as it sounds.

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Quote from: Biggs25 on 17-November-06, 13:48:05
Can anyone confirm if the geforce 8800 GTX will run in a Neo4 Plat SLI? The last bios mentions support for the GX2's but no new updates for the 8800 series.
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Well I just got my mobo up and running today and I have a few questions.
1st. Why is my PCI-E only at x8 ? I have a 6600GT and I know it supports x16?!
2nd. Why every time I boot into windows, it tells me it found new ide controllers but when it tries to install it gives me errors. I try to install drivers from cd but I get the same error, I download drivers from their website but same problem. It only started happening after I installed the latest bios v3.7. I use the ide stuff for my cd rom
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That is all for now. Any help would be great.
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http://www.viperlair.com/images/reviews/cpu_mobo/msi/amd/s939/k8nsli/31.jpg
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