Capture Keeps Aborting at 7 Min Saying "dropped frames"

After a recent update from Apple (to QT and iTunes) FCP suddenly stopped capturing beyond 7 min. I tried over and over again, switched disks, ensured space was there, tried different points on the tape, etc... No dice. No matter what I did, after about 7 min of capture it would stop and give me an error about dropped frames. If it is something to do with the updates I would think others would be having the same problem, but haven't seen anything on the discussion board.
Any idea where to start on this? Thanks in advance!
Using FCP HD 4.5 with JVC HR-DVS3U Deck

So, if the forum bite-backing is done...
FCP 4.5, QT 7.3, 10.3.9,
Dropped frames roughly every 6-7 minutes.
Details:
First, did a clip set to be an Hour or so long capture. Ran into the first dropped frame error. Tried again, about 3 times. Tried to do a simple manual Live Capture. No dice.
Said, F-it. Made several clips of roughly 6 to 12 minutes each. Varied in size and so forth. 10 clips. 1 out of 10 was actually captured. After multiple attempts to do a batch capture. Was reduced to capturing each clip one at a time. By the way, the successful capture was 3:16 minutes long. An unsuccessful capture was as low as 4:00 minutes long.
Then a painful run through of the clips, each checking at exactly WHAT TIME the frame drop happened. There seemed to be a 6-7 minute pattern on the TIMECODE.
BUT WAIT, there is more...
I have been capturing other video quite successfully all last week and this frame dropping issue just STARTED yesterday with this particular problem. This was a brand new tape (because I've had this happened on tapes I've reused) No muxing around with settings. I've checked all my settings and Safe RT is on, Low bit Quality, 2:2:2:4 is the pulldown pattern. I'm recording the internal drive. There are no CDs in the disk drive. I'm about ready to set up clips where I can TRY to avoid the dropped frames by stopping the capture before the time it is dropped.
Ah, the computer in question is a G4, 867MHz, 1.12g ram, with a Canon GL2...while it is a cranky computer, it has served in good stead.
I await with eagerness of your replies.

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