Capture Now with DV Start/Stop Detect maintaining Timecode

I am a new Mac user coming from Adobe Premiere Pro. In Pro, I could capture an entire tape into individual clips. I am now using FCE4, and have found the Capture Now option, as well as the DV Start/Stop Detect setting. The resulting segments show an In point based on the timecode of the tape. When I rename the file and move it to a different bin, I lose the timecode (in list view, in and out point state Not Set). Is there a way to maintain timecode to keep my shots in sequence?

This is the link to Piero's free filter - see if it is suitable:-
http://web.mac.com/piero.fiorani/iWeb/PieroF%20FCE%20Effect/FCE%20Timecode%20Dis play.html

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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?forumID=936&threadID=557928
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