Capture to multiple drives simultaneously? (for back up)

Hi,
We're shooting with the new Canon XF300 - love it! I atach a USB2 card reader to a MacBook Pro and "log and transfer" the footage to a capture drive. Everything works perfectly.
But we do this in the field sometimes, and THEN I drag the captured footage to a second drive for backup - then re-record on the CF card.
But isn't there a way to to capture to two drives at the same time with Final Cut Pro? Under User settings, I've set it to TWO capture drives - it seems to save all the data to the second drive I've listed . . . but not the first - meaning it DOESN'T seem to save the data to two drives. I wish I could - it would save me the effort of doing it manually.
Is there a way to let FCPro do this the way I'm thinking?
Thanks,
Larry

Thrillcat, you've just opened a big can of worms we've had problems with before.
We used to do it the way you just outlined. Exactly as you said! (using footage L&T from P2 card. I L&T on location, and let the editor L&T back at the lab. But it seemed when we shot hundreds and hundreds of clips, when the editor would send me his timeline so I could check it on location - I would simply 'reconnect' the media and all should work. After all, we both L&T the same raw shoot.
But over several days of intensive shooting - we found several of the clips wouldn't be 'found' from the editors time line (when I looked at the timeline in my MacBook Pro)!
Somehow in the renaming, etc - maybe 10% of the clips - HIS computer named them differently than "MY" computer . . . so they wouldn't match up!
We never solved that mystery. But we worked around it - by L&T everything on one computer (mine, in the field) and sending home the .mov files only - NOT the original mxf files. The problem went away! That's the reason we don't like to L&T from 2 different computers . . . it just seems to add variables and problems to the workflow - we don't know why - perhaps you do? Or have had this happen?

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