Capturing 24p over firewire

I have a friend that uses a Panasonic DVX100B to shoot a play at 24p. I stick the tape in a Mini-DV deck to capture over firewire. I get 720X480 29.97 fps interlaced. Is there a way to get the original 24p over firewire into PP CS4 and, for that matter, CS3??? It makes for interesting transformations at times.
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Quoting Ken Stone's site found at:
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