Capturing DCVCPROHD25P via firewire without a card

Hi to all,
i was wondering, if i capture dvcproHD 25p footage with a pansonic deck (pana 1400 for ex) via firewire, in a macbookpro without a capture card;, will i be capturing full blown dvcproHD or will i end up with compressed footage?
thanks for your help.
tee.

Well... all video including DVCPROHD is compressed video... but that said, what you'd capture with that deck is not FURTHER compressed... so it's as good as it can be shooting that format, which is a good one BTW.
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