Capturing HDV 720/60p?

Can Final Cut even capture HDV 720/60p nativly? I've been trying to capture some footage recorded on a JVC GY-HD250U with a JVC BR-HD50U deck. The footage was intended for a 720/30p project, but I couldn't capture it that way. The only workaround I found was to capture it into the project in the Apple Intermediate Codec HDV 720p30. What other workflows / solutions are there for this, if any?

I read a little about this JVC camera and I wasn't sure you can get 60p onto the tape, it seemed like you could get 60p out in analogue.
Quality is something you should decide. I think the best conversion quality comes when you convert using a completely digital hardware solution.
I am not the person to comment on Multicam editing as I have not had enough experience and I haven't really got it to stay in sync when I tried it. BTW The Ripple downloadable Multicam tutorials are great. I will say DVC Pro renders very quickly with my setup, I don't have enough experience with PR yet to comment.
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Message was edited by: Matt Blyth

Thanks Adrian, since posting the thread I've thought of that too but unfortunately to no avail. From other forums I've read this seems to be a central theme to the solution to my capture woes. I since have sorted the problem it was in Audio/Video Settings.
In the end I set my Audio/Video Settings to:
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And hey presto my I'm capturing HD without any problems. Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
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Been using an HDR-FX1 for a while, shooting mostly DV, and today I began experimenting with HDV. I shot 8 minutes of footage with the camera in HDV mode.
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tg

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Hi Russ,
Thanks for getting back so quickly.
I was feeling hopeful because I realised I had the fps rate set to 50 and when you said 25fps I thought that must be it. Unfortunatly it hasn't worked at all. It keeps saying there's no data incoming data from device, yet it acknowledges the timecode and I can control the camera from FCP.
I double checked my settings and made sure the camera was on before launching FCP. I am going to study the document you included to see if there is anything else I am doing that isn't working. I am wondering if there are some audio settings mucking it up.
If you have any other thoughts let me know. I will let you know if I figure it out.
Cheers,
Carolyn

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Andrew
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http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/mpegstreamclip.html
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I don't have experience with your JVC format or deck but here is something you may want to read.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/FCP6HD_and_BroadcastFormats.pdf
Page 19
*Important: If your computer has a PCI graphics card installed and you are logging or*
*capturing HDV footage, Final Cut Pro does not preview video or audio in the Log and*
*Capture window. You can still log and capture, but you need to use your HDV camcorder*
*display to preview video.*
I realize you have 5.1 but read this entire section on HDV, it could help.
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Z1

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Best way for capturing HDV

Best way for capturing HDV
using easy setup setted to HDV1080 50i (camera is a Sony HDV HC1) captured video look like sh...
and when exported with compressor is worst!
some idea?

Ok fantastic ! you are right (the frustration was talking for me)
video is shooted in 16:9 HDV 1080 50i
Captured video looks:
full of orizontal lines (that look like scan lines) expecially evident on figure edges and on motion subjects
and
like it was resized 1440x1080i from a different lower resolution
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MPEG-2 3.7Mbps 2-pass 16:9
Description: Fits up to 150 minutes of video with Dolby Digital audio at 192 Kbps or 120 minutes with AIFF audio on a DVD-5
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Video Encoder
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In these case the first problem is i can't obtain 16:9 format an the lines becomes more more evidents
software is Final cut Studio HD
camera is Sony HDV HC1e
hope I wrote all the info
Thx

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